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I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by dewey »

Beijinger wrote: post #315
JSavageOne wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes Google Cloud Run is my go-to for all my side projects, and AWS doesn't have anything equivalent. Never saw any reason to use AWS for that reason as Google has everything else I'd need. And if I just want a cheap VPS, would prefer to use something cheaper like Linode or Digital Ocean.

Is google so cheap? I am a small fish in the big sea but I use this for my personal projects: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/

As always it depends what you need. If you think you might need a database that's not MySQL and maybe a bucket to host your images and static assets then nearlyfreespeech is already not a good match any more if you prefer to have everything in one place.

For small projects or Wordpress installations you can of course find a lot of very cheap or even free options as it's such a commodity by now.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

heybrendan wrote: post #208
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #49

See Google/Alphabet's latest quarterly earnings. There's a decent chance that in a few years GCP will be no more. I had an argument with one of the biggest investors in Google a few years ago, in which I was predicting exactly this scenario. He didn't believe me. Perhaps I was right after all. GCP lost a ton of money since its inception. Its leadership is so far away from being able to run this business properly, tha…

While I appreciate you've disclosed your affiliations in your profile, can you claim complete objectivity on this topic? Would your stake in VMware and AWS not be {threatened,weakened}, perhaps severely, should Google succeed in Cloud?

I haven't had any stake in VMW or AWS (AMZN) for a few years now (~6 as of now). I was AWS 2008-2014, and VMware 2014-2016.

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Post by ramoz »

Ameo wrote: post #22

My two cents, GCP has a few excellent gems which are better than pretty much any competing cloud offering: - Cloud Run. Best way to deploy containers hands down. All of the benefits of a serverless/containerized workload with all the ease of a traditional VPS deployment. Extremely cheap (pay $0 for side projects with little traffic). - BigQuery. Very easy to use with immense power without having to deal with the deta…

Asset Inventory is slept on.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by ramoz »

pyrophane wrote: post #105

We use GCP at my current company and I've used AWS a lot in the past. Managing IAM users and roles on GCP is much more pleasant than AWS, and if you happen to use Google Workspace for you org, it approaches (as an infra engineer) the sublime. GCP projects are a really intuitive way to isolate resources that you don't want to be able to talk to each other by default. GKE has been very reliable. BigQuery got expensive…

IAM / Asset Inventory was always very useful as well.

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Post by gigatexal »

Ameo wrote: post #22

My two cents, GCP has a few excellent gems which are better than pretty much any competing cloud offering: - Cloud Run. Best way to deploy containers hands down. All of the benefits of a serverless/containerized workload with all the ease of a traditional VPS deployment. Extremely cheap (pay $0 for side projects with little traffic). - BigQuery. Very easy to use with immense power without having to deal with the deta…

As a consultant (side gig) I have to use both based on what the company that I’m assigned to is using.

AWS S3 and GCP GCS are basically the same in my head.

Where things fall apart are actually the cost estimator. GCP’s is far simpler. AWS’s makes me wish I had Corey Quinn on speed dial.

Redshift is far too complicated and has too many knobs. Give me BigQuery all day long even with its quirks.

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Post by starfallg »

ramraj07 wrote: post #336
pid-1 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It basically doesn't have the main thing that makes Cloud Run so valuable. Speaking more generally, it seems AWS is allergic to creating products that scale to zero nowadays.

Scaling down to zero appeals to amateur side project folks - no enterprise customer probably cares about that marginal expense here..

It really depends on which workloads. We have teams working only on FinOps to optimize our architecture to take advantage of various cloud pricing models.

Enterprise spend on cloud is a massive topic right now and definitely in the spotlight. A consensus is developing that the current implementation of public cloud promotes lock-in and overall much more expensive at scale.

Cloud is complex and engineers are expensive. Instead of throwing CPU cycles and disk at the problem (which is cheap compared to engineer time), we are nickel-and-dimeing everything, and changing our architectures to hack the cloud pricing models. It's pretty silly.

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Post by raxxorraxor »

ianpenney wrote: post #218

Tell me what your company’s existing IAM strategy is and I’ll tell you what cloud you should go all in on.

What about the "I am the admin of everything and I grant specific users admin rights until they stop nagging"-strategy?

Medium sized company with low fluctuation of engineers.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by Decabytes »

In my opinion all of GCPs advantages are eliminated by the fact that it is a Google product and I wouldn’t want to trust my business/livelihood to google. And this is not just an opinion I share, it’s the opinion of the large company I work for
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