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It's all about milking and rent-seeking: greed. Every device/vehicle/system now needs to be connected to the internet and needs you to download an app. Is that for the consumer? No. That's for the manufacturer. For milking be reselling your data and/or spying on you and/or charging extra because they can and/or the capability to turn any device into literal trash by not providing updates or bug fixes to a half-baked…
>Blame your government. There could and should be laws against that or at the very least incentives to prevent it. In a democracy the government is a proxy for the people. I blame the people. If the majority was conscious of their rights (or at least what these rights should be) the governments would have no choice and they'd bring laws that protect these rights. Yes, no democracy is perfect, there are lobbyists, cor…
The boiling frog of digital freedom
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Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
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That wasn't less true for any other appliance that's ever existed, largely because of the availability of the schematics. People have a right to know what they're buying. Companies are testing legal and cultural boundaries, silently changing functionality and usability by altering software or access to required services after sale. It's not "too complex", it'd just be a hassle if people knew.
> " It's not "too complex" " A valve radio had ~50 discrete components[1]. The first semiconductors had triple that number of components in a square millimeter in 1971[2], a modern CPU is in the tens or hundreds of millions of transistors per square millimetre. That's more components than the Encyclopedia Britannica had words in 29 volumes[3]. How are you going to 'know what you're buying' if you don't know anything…
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My takeaway from social psych was that it was far easier and cheaper to convince 2 ignorant people than it was to change 1 educated person's mind. Which boils majority democracy down to the median level of education.
considering technology is evolving faster than humans, using technology to exploit the unchangeable stupidity of humans seems like the winning move
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
That wasn't less true for any other appliance that's ever existed, largely because of the availability of the schematics. People have a right to know what they're buying. Companies are testing legal and cultural boundaries, silently changing functionality and usability by altering software or access to required services after sale. It's not "too complex", it'd just be a hassle if people knew.
Speaking of access, if you own minecraft with a mojang account you need to migrate it to a Microsoft account by September 19th. If you don't Microsoft, one of the wealthiest corporations in existence, will steal your copy of minecraft that you purchased elsewhere. Sorry if this isn't on topic, I'm very salty over the migration.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
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That's a long diatribe for what can be reduced down to "another techbro excuse why climate-destroying pre-mined (for shareholders!) shitcoin is better". The only thing shitcoin made "better" was how to pay the ransomware industry.
Pretty sure you’re reading your own biases into this Where did anyone mention climate-destroying proof-of-work? Last I checked, only Bitcoin uses that amount of energy — every other decentralized system does not. Shitcoin is a term bitcoiners use for every other coin so your own diatribe is incoherent. Most people on HN are techbros Blockchains are not the most efficient distributed systems architecture. But if you t…
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” -Upton Sinclair
> Where did anyone mention climate-destroying proof-of-work? Last I checked, only Bitcoin uses that amount of energy — every other decentralized system does not.
All shitcoin uses inordinate amounts of energy and resources to do wasteful calculations to prove a thing. Bitcoin chews through massive amounts of power. Ethereum chews through GPUs and lowers expected lifetimes. CHIA chews through SSDs in weeks of massive amounts of writes. Even running IPFS client chews through CPU/RAM/network like there's no tomorrow. Filecoin is 10x worse.
> Shitcoin is a term bitcoiners use for every other coin so your own diatribe is incoherent.
I include all of them. But how quaint that you invalidate me as some round-about defense of your own shitcoin.
> Most people on HN are techbros
Most != all. Some of us are actual socialists. You know, "know thy enemy" and all that.
> Blockchains are not the most efficient distributed systems architecture. But if you think you can do better, please do it!
Its already been made. Its called Hawala ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala ). And its an easy way to send money across areas and even currency changes. And its based on reputation, not some silly climate-destroying math, so you shitcoiners cant make money pre-mining the chain before opening it up to the public.
Again, thats really the problem with all this decentralized "currency". Its a terrible merge between money transmitter and money printer. And you posit "But if you think you can do better, please do it!"... and you refuse the counter-question of 'Do we even need this?'
> For instance, I am. I think we can do better than BlockChain. That’s why I designed InterCloud, and putting together a team to build it.
I repeat: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” -Upton Sinclair
Basically, I'm saying this for others who read this now, and not for you. This is a tacit admittance that you cannot look at other perspectives in this realm, and must see your path as the "only and true path", because otherwise you would be rejecting your own idea and business plan. (And I know very few who can dispassionately look at their own passions.)
> I care about open and free technologies. Dat/Hypercore. IPFS. Maidsafe/Safenet. Matrix. Nostr. Literally none of them fit anything you’re bitching about....In every case, people like you prefer bitching while the frog is being boiled, and actively spreading FUD about any open, free, permissionless alternatives. You’d do better by doing nothing, getting out of the way and let innovation happen. You seem to have no solution.
And in every case, the whole network is actually run by a quorum on the backend. The breathless claims of "decentralized" arent even defensible. And the other scam here is that all these with shitcoins attached have been heavily pre-mined to "pay the upfront investment cost". But again, with you being a shitcoin founder, you're well aware how this grift works.
I used to run the blockchain meetup here locally. Some of my contributions are still used by a lot of folks. But after a hard deep dive into dozens of blockchain systems, the only real benefit is to the ransomware industry. Well, that, and a whole bunch more decomissioned power plants being spun back up for shitcoin of various types. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/18/bitcoin-m...
But again, I know what I'm arguing against. And frankly, you're wrong and deluded that anti-government hyper-capitalism money is the way to accomplish this. It aint.
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
#346The other day I read an HN comment that thought that when you buy consumer PC hardware, it comes with a ToS that limits your property rights as the owner. It's the kind of uncanny experience I run into more and more often lately: talking with people so immersed in our new normal of cyberpunk dystopia, they seem not to remember how things were in the before-times. So accustomed to exploitative corporate gaslighting, w…
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> Stallman was right: if you erode the norm that you control your own software, you lose the hardware, too. Free software is sort of a consumer right that enshrines what ownership of computing hardware means.
The teeming masses praising Steam for cutting out the middleman seem unacquainted with the first-sale doctrine.
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This is false, there are thousands of examples of products 'in the wild' containing trade secrets that are difficult enough to figure out by reverse engineering that they are effectively considered such, even by industry experts. e.g. Apple's fixed glass trackpads Also by definition they cannot be 'invalidated' since trade secrets are never 'validated' in the first place, unlike patents, copyrights, or trademarks.
This is false, there are thousands of examples of products 'in the wild' containing trade secrets that are difficult enough to figure out by reverse engineering that they are effectively considered such, even by industry experts. That's not how trade secrets work. If you give me a device, and I figure out how that part of it goes together, the trade secret dies. There is no protection except an attempt at secrecy, an…
You can't dodge this point, which you appear to be doing as I never claimed copyright law is uniform in all jurisdictions worldwide, nor was that implied.
If you don't understand how these things work, it's better to not make bizarre claims.
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just like living the hermit life, leaving all of these services behind is surprisingly alienating. I say this as somebody who has done several of these and is trying to continue to expand. but damn, the is a lot of stuff that you miss out on and I'm starting to be squeezed by the losses to move back. I guess I'm saying, even though I feel driven by a massive moral imperative to engage with technology in that fashion,…
Just rebuild what you're missing, and share. In the journey to do so you will discover some of the most interesting primitives out there, and everyone gains, instead of a few unrepentant Gatekeepers.
I'm writing this because the software is already there. There are decent alternatives to most things, sometimes multiple. What isn't there is government adoption, and commercial adoption.
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How does it follow though. Bootloader locking and remote attestation don't stop you recycling devices or even repurposing them. They stop you changing the OS stack to an unknown one and then using them for the exact same purposes as before. That's much harder to explain and it boils down to in most cases, people still in love with the idea that one day a hacker/grassroots OS may become popular. Which is fun for devel…
>Bootloader locking and remote attestation don't stop you recycling devices or even repurposing them. Not even close to true. https://www.vice.com/en/article/43jywd/why-tens-of-thousands...
Re: The boiling frog of digital freedom
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I see your point, in the sense that local software is in theory more permanent, more reliable. But the issue is more subtle that you are describing. Is the local-first program* free software, or proprietary adware? Is its sole function to communicate with some particular company's API? What is better for digital freedom, the Reddit website or the official "Reddit app"? If a company is going to be gating their API beh…
You are right, we also need open protocols. With Usenet or IRC or email (or even Reddit and Twitter until recently), local apps are perfectly fine, because everyone can write their own client if they want. That gives you more freedom than being stuck with a proprietary web app.
Companies continue to encroach on what should be basic freedom to do network management. It's entirely intentional; to the point that I've about accepted there's a high-level of society push to enact as many barriers to reasonable liberty as humanly possible, all in the name of "Public safety" or some other transparent on further examination excuse.