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Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by iinnPP »

dontupvoteme wrote: post #282
CDSlice wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is fiction yes, but if it is lifelike enough does the difference matter? Even without the ick factor of making porn of someone without their consent, it would be so easy to destroy someone's career or relationship by making these deepfakes and then spreading them around. Especially once the tech gets more life-like and loses the current AI gen tells. And the same would apply to doing this the old fashioned way in…

>it would be so easy to destroy someone's career or relationship by making these deepfakes and then spreading them around. Only because this tech isn't yet well known. People will just correctly learn to not trust anything they see online.

The average IQ doesn't allow for that.

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Post by NikolaNovak »

katabasis wrote: post #199
stavros wrote: post #156

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1. You are potentially giving a shield of deniability to people who create or distribute real CSAM because now they could claim that the images are just AI generated and therefore "harmless" 2. Efforts to stamp out real child abuse may be undermined by a flood of AI-generated false positive imagery 3. When people see something over and over again they start to think that it's normal. AI generation of this kind of mat…

I see #3 as potentially valid, but also as applying equally to murder, drugs, and car speeding, which are prevalent in movies, animation, and video games. Heck, tv shows catering to kids have variations on all 3.

Don't get me wrong. I have a built in revulsion toward CP. But I wonder how much is that built in revulsion helping vs hindering rational discussion - just like it took me like 15 years of reading and pondering to remove the indoctrinated deference I had toward religion, and I hope I can have a more stable, less knee jerk discussion about religion. I think CP is wrong, but I also Think murder and torture are wrong. The latter two are amply represented in entertainment media. What is the Venn diagram, what is the delta that makes cp different?

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by squarefoot »

It seems all generated images when you land on the page and click the "create human" aren't created live but picked from a pre-populated list images that were also likely pre-filtered for accuracy: it's always almost instantaneous, while any small modification on the same subject always fails returning that the site is at maximum capacity. Also, several users pointed to created images with the usual problems related to hands and other parts. I would not base any judgment on what the site returns on the landing page.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Post by jug »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #166
gwern wrote: post #9

If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily, it's because they're using GANs (see the footer). GANs are way faster than diffusion models because they generate the image in a single forward pass and their true latent space encoding makes editing a breeze. (And if you're wondering how it can look so good when 'everyone knows GANs don't work because they're too unstable', a wi…

>And if you're wondering how it can look so good I don't think anyone is wondering this, especially if they are used to playing with diffusion models.

Yeah, honestly this whole comment thread is a testament of how quickly generative AI has moved the past year. Even in a hacker community like this where we ought to be close in terms of realizing where current tech stands, we're on different pages on what's possible. Photorealism is pretty much already here and this website is a poor example of current generative AI. The most it has going for it is that it has an approachable UI.

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Post by bloak »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #98

I get that most of these are hilarious (this is my favorite comment on HN in some time, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37239909 ). But still, I find this incredibly frightening. These are only going to get better. Does anyone doubt that in a couple years time (if that) we'll be able to put the image of any known public person into whatever generated photo we want, which would be indistinguishable from reality?…

I don't see much to be frightened of. It has always been possible to create convincing fake photographs, at a price, while a photograph on its own (without proper provenance) has not usually been treated as important evidence (though there are some famous exceptions, e.g. Duchess of Argyll). The new technology just makes it cheaper for mischievous people to make fakes, and easier for people to dismiss an unprovenanced photo as a fake.
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