Apple releases Ipad 3 • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by sneak » Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 6:29 AM UTC

kamjam wrote: post #321

sneak wrote: post #279

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"why not iPad 3? Seriously!" The video shown at the end of the announcement event has an Apple employee referring to it as "the third-generation iPad". This seems very strange to me, considering how on-message Apple has ALWAYS been in the past. It's just... sloppy. I wonder if Apple has a future beyond its current momentum. I'll be convinced otherwise ifwhen they release another world-changing product that wasn't inv…

Yeah, but they did the same with the iPhone as well... the iPhone 3/3GS, iPhone 4/4S. I've not really read up a huge amount on the specs of this, just a couple of basic articles - new stuff includes higher def screen, better camera, 4G support. Evolutionary rather than revolutionary, maybe that's why they decided it doesn't need a whole new release number. Who knows.

No, they didn't. The iPhone 4's model name is "iPhone 4", same for the "iPhone 4S". This one's model name is, according to the presentation, "the new iPad". You never see Apple refer to "iPhone 4" or "iPhone 4S" as "the n-th generation iPhone".

I'm not arguing the evolutionary/revolutionary angle, just that it's completely unprecedented for Apple to use TWO DIFFERENT NAMES to refer to ONE PRODUCT in their marketing materials.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by rbarooah » Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 9:43 AM UTC

cageface wrote: post #337

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What would suggest they should have done to stay ahead?

If I could answer that question I'd be Steve Jobs.

And yet despite not being Steve Jobs, you're certain they haven't done enough to stay ahead.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by rbarooah » Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 9:48 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #340

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What exact is sloppy? Third generation is one of their terms for it.

Apple hasn't historically had multiple names for a single product before. That's what I see as sloppy about it.

They have historically had products with multiple iterations all sharing the same name, and when necessary they qualify them with '3rd generation', or 'mid 2011'. Examples being the iPod, and the iMac.

They are simply moving the iPad to their established naming scheme.

Re: Apple releases Ipad 3

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Post by jorisw » Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 11:39 AM UTC

1) It's spelled iPad. 2) It's not officially called iPad 3, just 'the new iPad'.

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Post by beedogs » Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 2:57 PM UTC

ugh wrote: post #318

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I know enough to conclude that it hasn't gotten more expensive to ship bits in the past ten years. Yet, here we are in the US, shifting from unlimited data plans to rate-limited, capped plans, and no one seems to have come up with a convincing explanation as to why that's occurring.

Of course it has become more expensive to ship bits. More people are finding more uses. Are you deluded or what? How disconnected from reality and how entitled can one be?

Really? Entitlement? The rest of the developed world has faster, cheaper, and in many cases unlimited data, and you're calling me "entitled" for being incredulous about claims of the "ever-increasing cost of data transfer".

But, thanks for the insults. This place is really friendly!

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Post by schiffern » Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 3:27 AM UTC

jarek wrote: post #328

jiggy2011 wrote: post #188

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I can believe it , most laptops have names that are pretty much impossible to remember which in turn makes it very difficult to recommend a specific model to anybody not to mention uninspiring.

Not that recommending a "15 inch Macbook Pro 2.4 GHz with a 2.5 GHz CPU, a 256GB Solid State Drive, and the Hi-Res Antiglare Widescreen Display" is particularly straightforward or inspiring.

At least I know what that is. Ever try to dig up the tech specs of a discontinued 90s-era laptop from just its model number?

Apple has unique model number codes for all their products, but they try very hard to hide it in the logistics department. It's not listed anywhere on their online store, for instance, and in Apple Support documents they always use a consistent date system, e.g. "late 2011 Macbook Pro."

Also, you could have shortened that to: 15" MacBook Pro with the best CPU, 256GB SSD, and antiglare screen. 66 characters vs. 118. ;)