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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#341

Bye, Apollo. I kind of feel like a drug has been taken away from me. It’s is going to take a bit to adjust to not using Reddit on my phone, as I refuse to use their app.

Woke up this morning with no Apollo to scroll through as I wake up and wait for my medication to work. It was definitely weird, but not bad.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#342
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That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

This seems to be a very common sentiment that is not stated that clearly often, but it makes me very sad to read it. The magic of the internet, once upon a time, was discovering content in your own time. You stumbled into that cool niche forum, found someone’s personal blog, a flash game page. It didn’t need big centralised services to be fun. Internet users have become consumers and want to be fed content. I do not…

The problem is that as the Internet has advanced and filled every aspect of our lives, the average technological literacy of users has fallen off a cliff. I understand that in every aspect of life you cannot and will not care about being fully literate with everything, for instance most car owners are not mechanics, but that literacy used to be a requirement for access. I speak as someone who experienced the tail end, and thus one of the lowest bars of entry, but I still had to work to find things. I had to tinker with IRC clients, with port forwarding torrents for my Linux ISOs, for self-hosting servers for me and my friends. To find new communities was a mix of Google plus word of mouth, and took a bit of effort, but that effort was okay. It made finding and joining them more special. If I just click a “subscribe” button then it’s not as interesting to me. Not to mention by making the barrier of entry so low, it means the barrier of quality is lower too.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#343
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I think so. Though it’s not nearly as sophisticated as you might think. Are you interested in hosting an instance of it?

Having an equivalent of Nitter and Invidious would be amazing! I would love to host an instance of this API, you should publish your code! Apps like RedReader will be impossible to modify and use in a libre manner without a replacement API implementation like this.

Have you tried https://libreddit.de ? It can also be self-hosted

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

As a Reddit user I'm a bit puzzled by these death or Reddit posts. I use Reddit by going to reddit.com with the old settings and it works just the same. Does the death of some third party app really matter? It would be like saying HN is gone because some 3rd party app on it that I've never heard of is gone. Honestly a bit puzzled.

If you want to feel the equivalent impact, try browsing old.reddit on a mobile device. They have actively bastardized and impeded readability in order to force people to the app. Also, NSFW is a entire feat to try and get loaded on a phone. Sometimes it just doesn't even give you an age prompt.

And to be honest, I think old.reddit is also on its way out. It's inevitable. So we're going to experience this shit storm all over again.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Probably would have been interesting to relaunch the Apollo with its own backend as a direct competitor to Reddit. I think one simple push notification would've pulled millions of the most active users over to the new service

Apollo had just over ONE million users. Only 540k of whom were active. And significantly less that paid the fee needed to be able to post. And most active according to whom? People keep saying Reddit is committing suicide. Do y'all truly believe that most of Reddit useful content was created on mobile? In Apollo? The app that forced you to pay if you wanted to submit content to Reddit? Get real.

all of the third party apps sucked in terms of usage, hence why reddit was willing to destroy them

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#348

Yeah you’re drunk. Apollo was a cash grab and selig admitted as such. That being said no one can give any points to Reddit for how they handled things either.

Creating a great product that makes money isn't a cash grab.

they created an interface around a product they didn't own..

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

#349
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/djdmd9/we_banned_all... /r/drama banned people who posted in /r/teenagers and brought to surface a whole bundle of pedos

Talk about dark patterns. Reddit has disabled scrolling down on mobile devices. Well that ends my reddit usage.

Yeah, reddit has been mobile hostile for a few years now. Hope this forcing more users to the site reveals that.

Granted, I don't think anything will change, but complacency is the moment reddit truly dies.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

I'm going to press X to doubt. Reddit is infuriatingly sticky. Every time I land on a post from 10+ years ago (like this one [0] for example), I go to the author's profile page. Almost inevitably, they've written a comment within the last week. This is a remarkable property for a social website to have, and it's not one that I see exhibited in other places, like StackOverflow or ancient vBulletin forums. I'd like to…

Three problems with your theory:

1. Deleted users aren't going to pop up as much

2. It's going to be highly dependent on your search history. I'm sure more technically minded people will be around more often than results found on news subs or some more specific hobbies.

3. Commenting last week doesn't mean they are a regular commenter. Many of those people IME comment much less frequently later on. Maybe from a daily commenter to a weekly or monthly one. They are around, but not as active.

>As offensive as Steve Huffman has been throughout this saga, he doesn't seem to be wrong. Reddit could shoot a third party app on Fifth Avenue and people would still use it...

On a macro level, sure. I think anyone hoping for a sudden implosion was dreaming. But many are talking long term, a death by a million papercuts. There will be no one reason reddit dies.

Also, sample of one: I did in fact leave years ago. Still lurked w/o an account, but these actions caused me to try and replace nearly every community I have.

The main hole atm is a steady stream of gaming discussions. So i unfortunately may spend some 15 minutes browsing some niche gaming subs for certain news.

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