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Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Out of interest, why do you prefer a salt grinder? I've never understood why these exist. Pepper grinders, absolutely - the aromatics are released on grinding. By not so with salt. Curious if I'm missing something.

Grinder means finer salt. Finer salt sticks to things better (you can get a baby powder consistency). And the way the salt "tastes" is different because the powder dissolves on your tongue differently/quicker. Salt "dust" is a really interesting way of adding salt to food -- and you actually end up adding less than larger grains

>Grinder means finer salt.

I've never seen on-the-spot ground salt smaller than the stuff you can buy already grounded. Except if you buy flakes, but then why do so if you want finer salt?

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Recently my wife and I searched for a drinking water filter that would remove PFAS. We found one! https://www.clearlyfiltered.com/pages/performance-data-for-t...

Also see AquaGear https://www.drinkaquagear.com/ for a slightly cheaper option ($70 vs $90).

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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It removes flouride as well, for better or worse -- one of very few available filters which do. (Some think flouride is good and some think it's bad.) I have it, and purely ergonomically, it's the best filter I've ever used. It's also quite expensive with expensive filters that need replacing frequently.

This isn't a some think it's good and some think it's bad kind of thing. Just like with climate change there's no legitimate other side. Fluoride in your water supply is key to reducing tooth decay. Every medical association every scrap of evidence that we have says it's useful and important. It cuts tooth decay by 25% or so at all ages. You're doing yourself and your family a massive disservice by not adding it back…

How familiar are you with fluorides systemic effects on the endocrine system? As well as other systemic effects?

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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> They are toxic. If you ate enough salt to reach a toxic dose of sodium ferrocyanide, you’d already be dead from hypernatremia though? The dose makes the poison.

"The dose makes the poison." Yes it does and it all adds up. So why would I add more things, that are poisenous even at small doses, when I can easily avoid it?

>Yes it does and it all adds up

Only for substances that accumulate, which is not the case here...

Now if your salt has PFAS sure

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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If you brush your teeth with toothpaste, it shouldn't matter.

That's simply untrue. Even with brushing with toothpaste is still eliminates an extra 25% of tooth decay. That's a lot of extra teeth! It keeps fluoride in your saliva. Which toothpaste cannot do.

> It keeps fluoride in your saliva. Which toothpaste cannot do.

Which is why you're not supposed to rinse the toothpaste you used to brush your teeth.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Best popcorn you can make is cheap and easy cleanup. Take one large pot (the kind that holds like 10qts). Cover the bottom with kernels. Add a bit of oil, basically just enough to swirl and have everything covered in an oil sheen, not enough to have them submerged. Cover, put on high (I use gas). I like to suspend a paper towel between the lid and the rest of the pot, absorbs excess oil and water. Once popping slows,…

I love movie theater popcorn so I often try to get that exact experience at home. The biggest leap in quality for me is using a tall pot and a colander on top, it achieves the same goal as your paper towel between the lid-- getting that excess moisture out of the pot really makes all the difference!

If you want movie theater popcorn you make it the same way they do with the same ingredients.

Stir popcorn maker something like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004RC6R

flavacol salt (optional if you use flour salt) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004W8LT10 or flour salt https://www.amazon.com/Morton-Popcorn-Salt-Green-French/dp/B... or both 1/2-1 tea spoons at most.

'butter' oil https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UZLQG2 1/4 cup after cooking (warm it in a microwave)

The butter oil is a bit of a pain as there is so much of it and you can not really buy in small quantities, and it will go rancid before you use it all. It is meant for movie theaters to use. I have not found any supermarket versions that are correct. Usually they are kinda gross.

You can use a coconut oil for cooking with. Most theaters do not do this at all. The butter oil is closest to the same as movie theater as that is what they use during cooking and topping at the end. I personally use the coconut oil when cooking as it imparts a nice texture and flavor to the popcorn. 1-2 tsps for cooking with for either. Then top with the butter oil.

The flavacol and butter oil are the key ingredients.

For the popcorn I just buy orville redenbacher popcorn. They have a decent process of removing the duds before they get into the container. You can buy generic just expect a few duds.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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If you brush your teeth with toothpaste, it shouldn't matter.

That's simply untrue. Even with brushing with toothpaste is still eliminates an extra 25% of tooth decay. That's a lot of extra teeth! It keeps fluoride in your saliva. Which toothpaste cannot do.

>It keeps fluoride in your saliva.

I know this is posed as a positive, but I have a feeling in 1000 years we are going to be laughed at like the Romans for putting lead in their wine.

Anyway, my dentist told me to leave the fluoride on my teeth for a few minutes. Wonder if that is more dangerous due to the concentration.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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I thought you were not meant to put metal into a microwave ?

It depends on the shape and size. Smooth metal spoon in the microwave will be fine, a fork in the microwave will get electrical arcs and possibly destroy your microwave. Personally I'd just use some kind of metal-free chip clamp instead of actual staples, just to be safe.

It's not even very obvious what won't arc. FreshDirect sells pre-cooked turkey burgers. They come in a metal container with the edges bent over in a way to allow a plastic lid to snap on. Their official cooking instructions stay to just remove the lid and put the container in the microwave. It was surprising, but it doesn't have any arcing issues.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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Grinder means finer salt. Finer salt sticks to things better (you can get a baby powder consistency). And the way the salt "tastes" is different because the powder dissolves on your tongue differently/quicker. Salt "dust" is a really interesting way of adding salt to food -- and you actually end up adding less than larger grains

> Grinder means finer salt. I've never seen on-the-spot ground salt smaller than the stuff you can buy already grounded. Except if you buy flakes, but then why do so if you want finer salt?

The shapes of the granules in table vs ground sea salt are different.

Re: Eating microwave popcorn increases the level of PFAS in body (2022)

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I prefer course grained and no anti caking agents or iodine added. It's nothing special, some no-name Himalayan pink salt in a plastic grinder.

You're swapping caking agents and iodine for... a hefty list. (In both cases, less than really makes a difference to human health.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayan_salt > Some salts mined in Pakistan are not suitable for food or industrial use without purification due to impurities... Although a study of pink salts commercially available in Australia showed Himalayan salt to contain higher levels of a range o…

Oh, I'm not doing the pink salt because of the health benefits. I'm doing it because I like the flavor and how it interacts with my food better.

I've never really like iodized table salt, the pink salt tastes "right" to me.

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