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Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by katbyte »

jeanofthedead wrote: post #289
PUSH_AX wrote: post #13

For years I just wanted a good user experience playing video files from my MBP to a TV, I spent a lot of money (on NAS, chromecasts etc), used a lot of software with objectively terrible user experiences (Plex I'm looking firmly at you). Finally, I discovered the combination of Jellyfin and Infuse App. It works really well.

My favorite feature of Infuse is how it clears the Metadata cache every single time I launch the app. Takes about 30-45 seconds for it to show all of my media again. Even with plenty of storage space on my ATV4K.

This is why I stopped using it and switched back to the Emby app. It takes 5-10 min for it to reload for me.

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by ufish235 »

syntaxing wrote: post #329
seanp2k2 wrote: post #249

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Another idea is to get a thin client with an i7 or i9 (you probably want at least 10th gen at this point) and either an external enclosure for a few SSDs or if you find one with a PCIE slot, a PCIE card to fit maybe 4x m.2 SSDs. Some good deals are out there on U.2 SSDs if you look as well, like 8TB for $400 from Intel or WD good. Don’t forget that Asrock Rack and Supermicro sell Atom and Xeon-D boards, as well as so…

I actually think buying a first gen Mac Mini M1 is a better idea with a thunderbolt drive storage. I have friends in California that does this for the reasons you mentioned. The utility price has made homelab servers and 3D printing pretty much non viable unless you want to pay a $300+ electricity bill.

Actually I do have an M1 Mac Mini - what's his setup? Maybe my problem is that MacOS doesn't feel as friendly for getting an entire homeland setup.

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by Arn_Thor »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #310
manmal wrote: post #264

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Plex might have been stagnating, but it works kinda flawlessly for me. I run it in Docker at home and through a reverse proxy on a cheap VPS (don’t want to expose any ports at home) and even that works really well - the iOS app automagically switches between remote and local networks. Hardware transcoding (Intel) just works, even in Docker. Media scanning is very snappy. User management and parental controls look pow…

> Plex might have been stagnating, It's not stagnating, so much as they have decided that their initial market doesn't interest them. They were writing software for end users that let end users set up their own person Netflix. But maybe the revenue was unexciting or just insufficient, and now they want to be their own streaming service. Their streaming service sucks (they're probably at least two orders of magnitude…

There are excellent plugins to manage audiobooks and several spectacularly good apps for playback though. Don’t know about ebooks

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by Arn_Thor »

lost_tourist wrote: post #116
asylteltine wrote: post #59

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It’s not better than Plex though, but it is free

and no ads

Two minutes of interface management and Plex doesn’t show anything but my own media either. (I would prefer it if Plex didn’t advertise its streaming content at all of course, but I’ve paid for my lifetime pass so I’m not contributing revenue)

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

Arn_Thor wrote: post #343
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #310

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> Plex might have been stagnating, It's not stagnating, so much as they have decided that their initial market doesn't interest them. They were writing software for end users that let end users set up their own person Netflix. But maybe the revenue was unexciting or just insufficient, and now they want to be their own streaming service. Their streaming service sucks (they're probably at least two orders of magnitude…

There are excellent plugins to manage audiobooks and several spectacularly good apps for playback though. Don’t know about ebooks

Only to import metadata. But for actual functionality that's set in stone... the interface clearly believes that any audio file is music.

Hell, I have a stand-up comedy library... and if you pull up the Steve Martin album, it suggests his banjo music. You know, both audio files both Steven Martin (the man's been awarded Grammies for both, it seems).

The absolute minimum they might give us is just a different icon for audio books and for comedy. Chosen at library creation time, and no other changes. Even that's too much though.

> Don’t know about ebooks

Ebooks would require changes to the mobile clients in particular. No one's reading an ebook on Plex HTPC.

These changes aren't staggering in their complexity, they aren't horrendous endeavors. They're pretty cheap/easy. They have no interest.

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by LTL_FTC »

peblos wrote: post #24
PUSH_AX wrote: post #13

For years I just wanted a good user experience playing video files from my MBP to a TV, I spent a lot of money (on NAS, chromecasts etc), used a lot of software with objectively terrible user experiences (Plex I'm looking firmly at you). Finally, I discovered the combination of Jellyfin and Infuse App. It works really well.

What does Jellyfin + Infuse give you over simply using Infuse? I looked at Jellyfin about a year ago and settled on just playing media from my NAS using Infuse but maybe I need to take another look

Maybe this doesn’t happen to you but: my infuse app on my Apple TV constantly clears the cache because it gets full. This requires it to rescan my library before I have access to my media. Kind of a pain. Server side processing like with jelly fin would prevent this from happening. This is the reason I bounce back and forth between infuse and Plex on my Apple TV.

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

thrashh wrote: post #337
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #310

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> Plex might have been stagnating, It's not stagnating, so much as they have decided that their initial market doesn't interest them. They were writing software for end users that let end users set up their own person Netflix. But maybe the revenue was unexciting or just insufficient, and now they want to be their own streaming service. Their streaming service sucks (they're probably at least two orders of magnitude…

I paid Plex for a lifetime pass a long time ago and unless something changes, I will likely never pay them again and somehow I expect more features. So it’s not surprising they’re looking at other sources of revenue if they expect to continue paying for developers, hosting and the entire company. I also don’t see how ripping with youtube-dl is relevant. They need a legal source from somebody, maybe with a SLA, that t…

> They need a legal source from somebody, maybe with a SLA, that they can sign a contract with, not set up some hack.

I'm not asking them to provide the video files.

I'm asking for the feature. And if someone doesn't understand that's what I'm asking for, then I have to conclude that what they think Plex is supposed to be is very different from what I think it's supposed to be.

That'd make me wrong, except that 10 years ago everyone who knew about Plex agreed with me. Including the original developers.

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by ufish235 »

https443 wrote: post #308
ufish235 wrote: post #94

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Which model Synology? I am looking into one of the dual/quad core Celeron models because I heard the iGPU is critical for any kind of transcoding.

It worked on my older "DS 216+II". Could not stream more than 1 person at a time though. That was ok for my usage but not sure for yours. I recently upgraded to "DS 423+" and it's a lot faster - can have multiple streams going if I want.

Do you ever notice/regret the fact that it only has 1GBe instead of 2.5?

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by donatj »

RoyGBivCap wrote: post #292
number6 wrote: post #165

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But it doesn't trick you into an account or subscription

And it doesn't require internet access to watch things on your local network. That was the last straw for me with plex. Having to log into a server on the internet to access local content isn't just bad, it's broken by design just like DRM.

Why? Do you not have an internet connection?

Re: Jellyfin: Free software media system

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Post by crispyambulance »

Drybones wrote: post #262

I switched to Jellyfin from Plex cause of it being open source and having AMD/VA-API transcoding support I’ve enjoyed it a but more cause I feel like I can do more on the server end. I recently started to use Infuse on my Apple TV for it cause turns out that Swiftfin, still in development, doesn’t have a license for Dolby Audio formats. But the development cycle for Jellyfin and the clients looks healthy, unlike Plex…

  > ...am meticulous at making sure the structure and filenames are correct before dumping anything new to the library to the point where I have a complex script to...
I am the exact opposite, partly because I feel like it SHOULD BE the responsibility of the media library to maintain associations between the media files and their metadata, regardless of the filename.

It seems crazy to me that Plex and other media libraries effectively require you to follow persnickety file-naming conventions. I am very much in the minority of folks who think that you should just be able to point these media servers to a file, tell it what that file is, and then have it maintain associations so you can query your media in arbitrary ways to make a playlist or whatever-- no filenames changes needed.

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