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Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by actionablefiber »

linuxftw wrote: post #184
actionablefiber wrote: post #170

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Do you think users will continue to report posts if they see that reporting too often will cause them to be shadowbanned? Conversely if you are in the business of publishing spam to Reddit, wouldn’t it be useful if you could overwhelm the site with spam such that the people who care enough report all of the spam they see will get banned?

I think the vast majority of Reddit's userbase, normies, won't know the difference and won't care. It will literally be an invisible change.

Will it, though?

For how much I see people here saying AI moderation can solve this, I frankly think AI tools are likely to be an order of magnitude better at playing offense than defense - producing huge volumes of AI-generated spam/marketing/offensive content that could fool an AI content moderation algorithm on the other side.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by more_corn »

xyst wrote: post #50

Good. This works out for everybody except the brain dead C-level executives that tried to bully indie app developers. - regular people get a break from their echo chambers - VOLUNTEER mods get a break - journalists get their news article The only loser here is the corporation side. Significant loss of value from decreased user activity. Subsequent loss of revenue. Inability to extract as much value from the users dat…

Maybe AI scabs?

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Post by jaredhallen »

hayst4ck wrote: post #303
killingtime74 wrote: post #283

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If you want to go back to original sin then reddit should not have gone public and installed the investors as the ultimate power. Steve Huffman was one of the founders

I'll give you that, but I also don't think it was clear at the time that "next quarters profit" culture would destroy everything good. The culture at the time was "growth is money" and "we can figure out how to monetize later." Today we have the knowledge that monetization requires enshittification, but I think there were dreams that monetization could succeed without enshittification, and now those dreams have died.

But next quarter's profit always destroys everything good. Why should this have been expected to turn out any differently?

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by ShroudedNight »

bastijn wrote: post #63
prox wrote: post #20

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Spez seems like the latest outed manchild amongst CEOs.

That awkward moment you realize Reddit is in a better position to win this war because people like us just want to have a digital place to spend time, not fight a war. Truth be told I don't care much about all of this, I just want my subs back or replaced so I can mindlessly scroll them. Wasn't using a third party app, but if I was I'd probably feel unhappy for a week before I simply switch and don't think back.

I have never used a third party app. I've used compact mode (i), old, new and their first-party app on Android. The information density on their first-party app is so low as to be painful. Then there are ads that feel like a run-by assault. Somehow they're now competing with _LinkedIn_ for how painful they can make being curious and attempting to connect with others.

If the first-part app is all there is, it's easier just to go somewhere else.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by adventured »

czx4f4bd wrote: post #238
majormajor wrote: post #140

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I've often wondered why people use Reddit for stuff like this since the information and conversation management and organizational tools seem vastly inferior to most any pre-Reddit forum software. My current working theory is largely that internet search is just broken. It's easier to search for subreddit once you're on Reddit than to wade out into the sea of SEO crap and try to find a live, reliable format on the br…

Reddit also offloads the complexity of forum management from moderators and removes the friction of registration. If you want to create a traditional forum, you have to figure out how to host it, what forum software you want to use, how that software works, how to configure it, etc. If you get attacked by spammers, hackers, or trolls, you have to figure out how to stop that more or less from scratch. It requires a si…

What, you don't want to sign up for 27 different forums, all using their own variations of CRUDs?

The solution to Reddit is a similarly centralized approach managed instead in the style of Wikipedia (not suggesting exactly replicating their governance, rather something generally akin to Wikipedia's not-for-profit direction).

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Post by malermeister »

meepmorp wrote: post #156
slicktux wrote: post #97

I’m all for this but what’s to keep Reddit from manning the subreddits themselves??

The same thing that was stopping them before, that's a lot of work. Plus, it was free before, so they'd need to spend some money doing it themselves.

the new moderators would also be seen as scabs by the communities they are supposed to be moderating. I can't see that going well.

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Post by meepmorp »

malermeister wrote: post #347
meepmorp wrote: post #156

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The same thing that was stopping them before, that's a lot of work. Plus, it was free before, so they'd need to spend some money doing it themselves.

the new moderators would also be seen as scabs by the communities they are supposed to be moderating. I can't see that going well.

Probably depends on the sub, but yeah, lots of potential for it to go wrong

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Post by tester457 »

housemusicfan wrote: post #295
thefourthchime wrote: post #231

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I deleted my 8yo account. It was right after someone downvoted me because pointed out something that broke with their opinion. That kind of summed up my view Reddit. Groupthink circle jerks. Why was I part of any of that??

> It was right after someone downvoted me because pointed out something that broke with their opinion. It took you 8 years to realize that's how that place operates? Hell, that describes the culture on HN pretty well. Freewheeling downvoting was a flawed idea from the beginning. 20 years later it turns out Slashdot had the right model for moderation.

I've never used Slashdot, how is the moderation model superior?
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