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Re: Amount of work that once bought an hour of light now buys 51 years of it (2017)

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Post by Auracle » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 6:04 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #318

Auracle wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're neglecting the fact that not everyone gets stopped, people do visa overstays, etc. We don't know what the true number is and that's part of the problem. If we're letting an unknown number of people in we aren't controlling for housing demand. All we have hard data on are how many are added to the immigration court backlog.

> We don't know what the true number is and that's part of the problem We have a pretty good idea, but it doesn't mostly come from border encounter tallies like the onrs you've cited. > If we're letting an unknown number of people in we aren't controlling for housing demand. Except for a sharp drop during the pandemic and a rebound to nearly the prior level afterwards, the illegally-present population has been basica…

Source? Immigration courts are more backed up than they ever have been.

Re: Amount of work that once bought an hour of light now buys 51 years of it (2017)

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Post by valval » Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 8:53 AM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #307

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but you are intentionally ignoring the context, intentionally misinterpreting the claim, and being pedantic. It's so lazy and dishonest to do a super literal close reading of what someone says and then debunk that. Your teachers failed you. It's completely obvious that OP meant that otherwise healthy people aren't starving to death. That used to be common, millions of otherwise healthy people died in famines i…

> People that were healthy couldn't find a way to get their hands on enough calories... That sure sounds like the "low-income, homebound, or without reliable access to healthy food" bit from my quote. > It's completely obvious that OP meant that otherwise healthy people aren't starving to death. The chances of zero people having done that in a country of 330 million people "in decades", as asserted, is quite slim. ht…

I suppose it's a matter of definition for the word "involuntary" at this point. What I mean is that everyone who is willing and able will have enough food stamps to get enough nutrition for the month - no matter your living situation.

Like the parent said, you seem to be disputing my original claim out of spite and in bad faith.

Re: Amount of work that once bought an hour of light now buys 51 years of it (2017)

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Post by Dah00n » Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 3:18 PM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #229

Dah00n wrote: post #90

This thread needs a Mod. Knew it would have racism and I were stupid enough to read along.

"If you flag the bad comment, that alerts moderators. In egregious cases, email hn@ycombinator.com so we can look at it sooner." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20179759 >

Oops, I didn't know flagging did this. Thanks.