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Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by nopcode »

Solvency wrote: post #179
maeln wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is many search engine that use the DHT to retrieve the metadata and share torrent via the magnet. The main issue here is not the tech, it's the trust and discoverability/curating and also not spreading the seeding capabilities. When downloading from "reputable torrent tracker XYZ" you can trust the quality of the torrent, that it is virus free, etc ... It is also usually make searching for particular torrent ea…

This makes sense but...I'm being fully serious and earnest here and revealing my own naïveté: Couldn't some form of blockchain work here? Like couldn't some form of distributed/democratized community curation and moderation happen by using the blockchain to manage the arbitration of new torrents (and their successors, like when the community decides New Random Anime X encoding to be a superior copy)? Plus you have pr…

This happened in the dutch usenet piracy community.

Downloading happened over usenet, but curation and discussion on a centralised website. The site got seized and the community moved to a new forum that runs on usenet itself.

Blockchain is overkill here - don't need a coin or stake or whatever

Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by m00dy »

johnvanommen wrote: post #311
dmix wrote: post #149

Kinda makes sense the team was (partially) operating out of Eastern Europe and then had some issues with rising costs given the war and inflation. Maybe it will come back in the future when things settle down or a new backer comes in.

The first time I went on vacation in Eastern Europe, almost two decades ago, I noticed that basically everyone pirated content.

Ive had best parties of my life in Eastern Europe :)

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Post by ebiester »

jahewson wrote: post #299
best_one_there wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically all of an actual software company is bullshit jobs unrelated to the core product like legal, marketing, investor relations, HR, maybe even developers for R&D etc. Running a website doesn't require that many people. I've worked at companies with 4 developers and 30+ "other stuff". The company would not be profitable and we would not get paid without them, but the actual product would work just fine if we wan…

Anecdotally, I’ve never met anyone who thought this way who’s product didn’t suck.

I don't understand this.

If you build a system for resilience, it should not take significant effort to maintain. You should be able to keep the lights on with 10-20% of the engineering team. The rest is growth.

Growth may be making the product better, creating new product lines, or improving the scalability - for example, allowing larger numbers of users or entries. However, you can make the choice to make a well constrained product that serves a valuable use but doesn't need growth. Consider Bingo Card Creator, for example.

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

Solvency wrote: post #231
unixhero wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would they? Torrents are fairly trivial to build a web site around. Blockchain sounds lile experimental engineering

I asked because the original question was around centralization (a tracker website) being the weak link in the chain. I suppose you could build a very simple decentralized voting system / index of sorts... but it wouldn't be a centralized hosted online "website" (..right?)

Tracker websites are hardly centralized. There are thousands (millions?) to choose from.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by chromoblob »

k5hp wrote: post #265

Let's hope the same doesn't happen to Rutracker.

Rutracker seems to have big ad revenue (just look at the ads and how popular it is). Also, Rutracker administrators seem quite serious to me (I compare the feeling I get from observing elaborate upload post format requirements, massive forum structure, important size of dedicated wiki on Rutracker and the feeling I get after reading the linked announcement).

Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by raincole »

best_one_there wrote: post #260
sbdaman wrote: post #178

It's absolutely insane how many of these incredibly important torrent sites are just managed and hosted by a rag-tag group of people with the site barely clinging to life.

Basically all of an actual software company is bullshit jobs unrelated to the core product like legal, marketing, investor relations, HR, maybe even developers for R&D etc. Running a website doesn't require that many people. I've worked at companies with 4 developers and 30+ "other stuff". The company would not be profitable and we would not get paid without them, but the actual product would work just fine if we wan…

> bullshit jobs unrelated to the core product like legal, marketing, investor relations, HR, maybe even developers for R&D etc.

Wow. You think legal, marketing, investor relations are all bullshit jobs...?

Just wow.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by robertoandred »

pdimitar wrote: post #77

What a shame. They could have asked for donations but me as an Eastern European, I get it -- usually if we get to the point of needing donations we feel ashamed and humiliated and just close shop. I hope somebody picks up the flag. Illegal and copyright-protected piracy aside, there were tons of royalty-free and non-copyright-enforced works of art there and it would be a big hit on humanity's culture at large for all…

hahah paying to steal stuff

Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by princevegeta89 »

sbdaman wrote: post #178

It's absolutely insane how many of these incredibly important torrent sites are just managed and hosted by a rag-tag group of people with the site barely clinging to life.

It's quite unbelievable that the reason was they could not meet the costs of running it, while not being able to collect donations or help raise funds to keep the lights on. Technically the ownership and administration of their servers could have been distributed all across the world, which would have helped with the staff availability to a good extent.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by ferCats99 »

Lammy wrote: post #331
sktrdie wrote: post #256

Why don't torrent site owners just release their sites as a torrent file itself? Like a sqlite dump with search indexes? They could either self-update the torrent [1] or just release the new torrent via forums/groups/chats etc. Would bring the costs down to zero. 1. http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html

It's not just the site. RARBG themselves were responsible for many of the video encodes, hence the "RARBG_DO_NOT_MIRROR.exe" included in many of them: https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-adds-exe-files-to-torrents-bu...

They don't, many encodes were from other P2P or release groups and they just stripped the names and attributed to themselves
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