TikTok is now banned in Montana

Post by Gollapalli » Fri, May 19, 2023, 1:26 AM UTC

knaik94 wrote: post #318

barathr wrote: post #195

I wrote up a quick analysis last night here: https://ioc.exchange/@invisv/110387246627189198 Here are the takeaways: * It'd be easy for Apple and Google to prevent downloads of TikTok for most users, which would also include app updates, as they have a significant amount of knowledge of users' locations and could prevent most users in Montana -- even those using a VPN -- from downloading the app or updating it. * It'…

Part of the issue is that the government itself takes part in that marketplace as a seller and buyer. There's no resonable way to make laws for corporations while giving a pass to government agencies, it might be proposed but it would never pass. One of the biggest clients of Cambridge Analytica was the Trump campaign. I became disillusioned about hoping laws pass that protect user data after watching the TikTok hear…

Post by knaik94 » Fri, May 19, 2023, 1:34 AM UTC

quantum_state wrote: post #337

knaik94 wrote: post #318

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Part of the issue is that the government itself takes part in that marketplace as a seller and buyer. There's no resonable way to make laws for corporations while giving a pass to government agencies, it might be proposed but it would never pass. One of the biggest clients of Cambridge Analytica was the Trump campaign. I became disillusioned about hoping laws pass that protect user data after watching the TikTok hear…

In one word, you are saying we have stupid folks in the legislature messing up the country. It is true and they have been doing that for a while …

Post by mlyle » Fri, May 19, 2023, 1:38 AM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #302

mlyle wrote: post #108

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There's also the third issue, which is much more problematic to fix with regulation: short-form video is absolutely killing youth attention span. I know students who will ask another student a question, and then lose focus and zone out within literally 3 seconds and not hear the answer. This was not nearly as prevalent a decade ago.

And the 4th option - it’s eating American companies lunch and apparently the free market party thinks it’s now okay to take away things from its citizens based on scaremongering and innuendo.

Post by barathr » Fri, May 19, 2023, 1:49 AM UTC

opmelogy wrote: post #342

barathr wrote: post #195

I wrote up a quick analysis last night here: https://ioc.exchange/@invisv/110387246627189198 Here are the takeaways: * It'd be easy for Apple and Google to prevent downloads of TikTok for most users, which would also include app updates, as they have a significant amount of knowledge of users' locations and could prevent most users in Montana -- even those using a VPN -- from downloading the app or updating it. * It'…

> * It'd be easy for Apple and Google to prevent downloads of TikTok for most users, which would also include app updates, as they have a significant amount of knowledge of users' locations and could prevent most users in Montana -- even those using a VPN -- from downloading the app or updating it. I find this statement odd. It's one thing to have the data and another thing to assert that it's either readily availabl…

Post by JumpCrisscross » Fri, May 19, 2023, 1:51 AM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #251

wombatpm wrote: post #221

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So can apple turn off all iphones in Montana in retaliation. Bet it would be easier/cheaper to cut off those customers than implement any changes. Android phone makes could follow suit

It'd be hard to identify a phone associated with a "Montana citizen". Not impossible, but I think that based on Apple and Google's comments on these laws that they haven't built the functionality in. GeoIP doesn't work because carriers (especially in Montana) tend to assign IPs from surrounding states as much as they do local cities. When I'm on the cell network, I'm regularly identified as coming out of Denver. Phon…