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Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Asking a CEO for their opinion on remote work is like asking a feudal lord their opinion on democracy.

There's also quite a lot of these "remote work doesn't work" posts from C-level execs, board members, etc...that live far away from their company's headquarters. The dissonance is funny.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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The full quote is a bit narrower than the title implies; > "I think definitely one of the tech industry's worst mistakes in a long time was that everybody could go full remote forever, and startups didn't need to be together in person and, you know, there was going to be no loss of creativity,” he told attendees. "I would say that the experiment on that is over, and the technology is not yet good enough that people c…

>Where it's disappointing (to me) is that it seems he's just ... giving up.

His job isn't to solve the remote work problem but to run a company effectively. Given the current job market and glut of engineers looking for jobs solving the remote work problem won't provide much if any competitive advantage. That may change in the future but right now isn't the future.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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The full quote is a bit narrower than the title implies; > "I think definitely one of the tech industry's worst mistakes in a long time was that everybody could go full remote forever, and startups didn't need to be together in person and, you know, there was going to be no loss of creativity,” he told attendees. "I would say that the experiment on that is over, and the technology is not yet good enough that people c…

It is just part of the Silicon Valley lore. You know how all those successful start-ups were all started in big office complexes. It is just more creative that way.

It has been obvious for a while now that the optimal workplace was designed in the 18th century.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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>The idea of fully remote work becoming the norm has come and gone The idea has always been there, it was never new, and it didn’t go anywhere and I don’t think it’s going anywhere either. And then the article says >and the technology is not yet good enough that people can be full remote forever, particularly on startups." Followed by at the end >He also worries some might be freeing up time by using A.I. tools like…

Companies are already unable to check if they are utilising their employees time efficiently. People can look awfully busy without doing anything of value.

And at some point you want to use strict monitoring (perhaps assisted by AI) to keep tabs on them, they can just as easily work from home. But I doubt that's legal.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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That seems like a dumb thing to say about an experience so many of us have. My productivity, health and state of mind were all better when I worked from home. Why is Altman lying to me?

Depends on your reference frame. You're thinking about it as an individual. But is your company's productivity better? Is your team's productivity better? That's ultimately what will come down to. It's fair to say that HN is overwhelmingly pro-remote work. This is because coding is uniquely "not bad" for remote work. And there are many coders on HN. But pretty much every other department is worse off with 100% remote…

Thinking only Software development is the only thing can be done is a little of a downplay, there are TONs of job that can be effectively done remotely, from project/product management, data analytics, engineering design (not just software), strategic and risk analysis, sales, marketing, and the list goes on, it’s probably only blue collar jobs are the exceptions for the most part. Even a pilot can be done remotely, during the pandemic we built a drone system for pilots to fly drones remotely from anywhere, and that’s just an example of how things are now.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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post #343

The full quote is a bit narrower than the title implies; > "I think definitely one of the tech industry's worst mistakes in a long time was that everybody could go full remote forever, and startups didn't need to be together in person and, you know, there was going to be no loss of creativity,” he told attendees. "I would say that the experiment on that is over, and the technology is not yet good enough that people c…

It is just part of the Silicon Valley lore. You know how all those successful start-ups were all started in big office complexes. It is just more creative that way. It has been obvious for a while now that the optimal workplace was designed in the 18th century.

Just like it was obvious in the 18th century, the optimal loom (the Jacquard) was invented, and no possible improvements to textile manufacture could be made.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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It's fine to have an opinion/preference about the topic. I'm ok with CEOs thinking remote is a mistake, the same way they should be ok with people (maybe even the best people you could hire in some cases) not even glancing at their job offers for not being remote friendly.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Well, it is kind of funny when a millionaire tech bro tell me that remote work doesn't work to build some silly food delivery applications, when those silly applications run on top of an open source stack that was always heavily built on remote and async settings.

Because what he is really saying is that it’s a problem for him and his plans. Real open communities don’t suffer the same way.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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The full quote is a bit narrower than the title implies; > "I think definitely one of the tech industry's worst mistakes in a long time was that everybody could go full remote forever, and startups didn't need to be together in person and, you know, there was going to be no loss of creativity,” he told attendees. "I would say that the experiment on that is over, and the technology is not yet good enough that people c…

> He's suggesting that there are problems with remote work for creative teams, but rather than think of ways to solve those problems I hate this mindset (and I enjoy remote work). It's not his job to solve remote work for everyone. He probably (definitely) has other topics he's more interested in.

Sure, but going out and publicly just going "it's a failed experiment" when you're as influential as he is is different than just not trying to solve it for everyone. It's actively contributing to ending the experiment for everyone and reducing the pressure to try to solve the problems.

Re: Sam Altman says era of remote work is over

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is just part of the Silicon Valley lore. You know how all those successful start-ups were all started in big office complexes. It is just more creative that way. It has been obvious for a while now that the optimal workplace was designed in the 18th century.

Just like it was obvious in the 18th century, the optimal loom (the Jacquard) was invented, and no possible improvements to textile manufacture could be made.

It should be good enough to print Hello World with that loom
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