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For people who can't afford the ticket, there can be special prices. For example in my hometown, people with low-income pay less. Kids from low-income families pay nothing.
That'd be specially wrong, as high income already pay more taxes, which more strongly fund this transport system.
Controversial opinion: Public transport should be publicly owned.
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> entering a bus or train requires a turnstile, tap, or other impediment that slows access In Hamburg, where I live, there is nothing like that.
Hamburg's busses don't have coin boxes or sell tickets/fares? You don't have any mechanism that requires swiping a card, tapping a device, showing a card/ticket to an operator, or otherwise proving you have, in fact, purchased a fare? In Seattle, we tap our cards on something that looks like this: https://seattletransitblog.com/2011/06/28/dont-tap-orca-here... It's pretty quick, but on the busiest bus routes it slows…
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Which reminds me to give a shout-out to the Clipper card. The SF Bay Area really did the right thing here. 24 different systems, all of which use the same card: https://www.clippercard.com/ClipperWeb/where-to-use.html And they have now expanded that card-based system to include a mobile app, Google Pay, and Apple Pay, so now I just tap my phone and I'm all set.
The SF Bay Area really did the right thing here. No, no they really didn't. They spent millions rebranding it, there is (was?) a huge lag between adding value and posting the value depending on how you added value. The original card readers were incredibly unreliable, and because Clipper/TransLink did absolutely nothing to unify* the fare structure across the twenty-four different systems you could be set up for a na…
There is months worth of "pending" passes on my clipper card and neither some Clipper support number I called nor the poor guy in the booth at the local BART station could tell me how to activate them (and also not some people on Reddit and my public transit using friends, of course). It's obviously not done by using either BART or buses or SF Muni, or tagging the card against the insert-coin machines at the station, because, you know, I've done all of that a bunch of times since this started being an issue. Most of the pending passes expired by now. I'd be more upset about this if I had paid for them with actual money and not some employer based commute benefit since I haven't exactly commuted regularly since the pandemic started.
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Basically everyone uses email, and you said "people like us", so the poor communication here is on your end. Please elaborate if you want to be understood.
Fair point, I thought this term is more known, but then myself had a hard time to Google it In response to the criticism. But I think this might be a good start: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33521917
I'm not trying to self-aggrandize here, but I'm bad at emails and good at code. I'm sure you can find a portion of HN users that fit the description but I don't think "people like us - the E-Mail caste" is the way to say it.
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That'd be specially wrong, as high income already pay more taxes, which more strongly fund this transport system.
It's called 'Social'. Those who are stronger contribute to the society more.
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Hamburg's busses don't have coin boxes or sell tickets/fares? You don't have any mechanism that requires swiping a card, tapping a device, showing a card/ticket to an operator, or otherwise proving you have, in fact, purchased a fare? In Seattle, we tap our cards on something that looks like this: https://seattletransitblog.com/2011/06/28/dont-tap-orca-here... It's pretty quick, but on the busiest bus routes it slows…
In Switzerland there are no gates or a need for "showing a card/ticket to an operator, or otherwise proving you have, in fact, purchased a fare". You just enter the bus/train/tram vehicle. Maybe a ticket controllant comes, maybe not (most often they dont come and check) EDIT: To get a ticket you simple open the app and "check in". When you leave the transport you open the app and "check out". At the end of the day th…
That's messed up.
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It's called 'Social'. Those who are stronger contribute to the society more.
Or leave the country, because they're treated badly despite their higher contributions.
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> entering a bus or train requires a turnstile, tap, or other impediment that slows access In Hamburg, where I live, there is nothing like that.
Hamburg's busses don't have coin boxes or sell tickets/fares? You don't have any mechanism that requires swiping a card, tapping a device, showing a card/ticket to an operator, or otherwise proving you have, in fact, purchased a fare? In Seattle, we tap our cards on something that looks like this: https://seattletransitblog.com/2011/06/28/dont-tap-orca-here... It's pretty quick, but on the busiest bus routes it slows…
The inspectors don't slow things down. (They do cause other more serious issues, but still far less than anywhere in the US.)
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I have about half a dozen different ways to get from one train station to another, some with first and second class options. Just tapping in and out would not be sufficient to find out how much I have to pay or in some cases which company to reimburse.
For that reason before tapping in, you can select the correct class and discount in the app.