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Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

cassac wrote: post #271
jethro_tell wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They'd usually have to prove they fired you with cause not because you said you quit. i.e. if you get caught stealing or are sexually harassing your co-workers, they can still fire you. They are not however required to let you work. They can revoke access and continue to pay, they can give you a package and terminate you employment. If you don't want to take the package, they can just walk you out of the building and…

I’d guess most people, in the US at least, are employed at-will and could be fired right on the spot with no cause given. The problem with that though is you could turn around and file for unemployment which might end up increasing the associated taxes for them with increased headaches. I’d agree that most reasonable HR departments wouldn’t let it go that far but some people like to play dirty irrespective of the cos…

How can it increase taxes? Unemployment is funded by payroll taxes that are fixed and non-negotiable.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by morepork »

indymike wrote: post #102
saulpw wrote: post #7

I've generally given a lot of notice as an IC, 2-3 months in some cases. and I have to say, I think it's not been appreciated, not even once. I've tried to spend the time wrapping things up, communicating my tacit knowledge to my coworkers, and writing documentation for things that I've done and created and am responsible for; I'm fairly certain that no one has given my opinions and thoughts any more than a cursory a…

> But now when I "give notice" and they don't even let me try to work the next 2 weeks, I'm grateful. Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. In many states, if the employer attempts to move the termination date (without compensation), they will award wages until your resignation date... I've used this twice, and in both cases, I was sent home, but HR told the manager that any severance…

Isn't that just normal? How do people normally resign? I've always written up a letter saying my last day will be x

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by morepork »

projectazorian wrote: post #156
monster_group wrote: post #9

This is terrible advice. Great that it has worked for the author but it does not mean it's a good idea for everyone. 2 weeks is the standard and as long as you give that you maintain good relations. Most people are not as valuable or important as they like to think they are. I have seen very important people leave / fired and things still go on. (Twitter is still working - isn't it?) Once you tell that you are leavin…

There’s a lot of merit to taking a week or two beyond the standard. 2 weeks isn‘t a lot of time to hand off all your work, go through the usual HR bureaucracy, and make sure you have contact info for anyone you might want to stay in touch with after leaving. If it’s an amicable departure 3-4 weeks can be a lot less stressful for everyone. 6-8 weeks is kinda weird though, unless you‘re extremely senior and on critical…

And 2 weeks could suddenly become a lot shorter. I gave 2 weeks notice once, then had a death in the family (covered by bereavement leave) and then got sick. My 10 business days of handover ended up going down to about 4-5.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by dghlsakjg »

scarface74 wrote: post #316
namelessoracle wrote: post #280

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If you put in 2 weeks notice and you get fired on the spot its a slam dunk un employment claim. (assuming you can show that yes you gave notice and you weren't fired first) Most places would rather just pay you the 2 weeks if they really dont want you around than deal with unemployment. Lots of corporate environments firing people takes more than 2 weeks anyways, and you would just be creating extra work for HR for w…

Unemployment is like $350 - $550/week.

Unemployment in the US is set at the state level.

Many states pay significantly higher than $550. WA pays a max of $999 weekly.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by dghlsakjg »

ipaddr wrote: post #340
throw0101b wrote: post #305

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> No it’s not valid in Sweden (or anywhere else). The date at which your resignation starts to count is the date that your employer learns of your intent to leave. "or anywhere else" is an exceedingly broad assertion. For Canada: > Yes, you do have to give notice of your resignation in Canada. The common law imposes a duty to provide notice of resignation on all employees. > However, you don’t have to give two weeks’…

Can you give 10 years notice and if you get fired within 10 years they would be forced to pay out 10 years?

“Reasonable”

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by zdragnar »

Freedom2 wrote: post #339
zdragnar wrote: post #265

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Nope, midwest US. Two weeks notice is social etiquette as a minimum to avoid burning a bridge, so to speak. There's nothing against giving further notice. Thinking back on it, though, I would absolutely not give further notice if I was only doing "busy" work (as someone suggested elsewhere). I try to maintain a good relationship with my employers as a professional courtesy. Putting out notice beyond what active work…

That's interesting. In my experience, I've somehow managed to score referrals despite daring to give less than 2 weeks notice and my previous bosses still recognize my investment in the company's success. It's rather amusing that the midwest isn't more forgiving when it comes to shorter notices, or that an employee is instantly branded as a "bridge-burner".

> midwest isn't more forgiving

As with all social etiquette, it's a guideline, not a law. The outcome depends entirely on your relationship with your boss and what kind of position the team is left in when you leave.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by below43 »

chickenpotpie wrote: post #125

No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…

This happened to me. No good deed goes unpunished (in this particular case).

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by sureglymop »

zeku wrote: post #99
brink wrote: post #72

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Same thing happened to me - told my boss on a Friday that I had received a job offer with a 55% pay raise and was probably going to take it, so we should think about off-boarding. Later that day my admin rights to the gitlab org were removed, was told that "it was a mistake", and was fired the following Monday. They also took my $20k bonus that I was supposed to receive months earlier and used it as a carrot on a sti…

If your best friend abandoned you because you got a 55% raise and tried to give lots of notice, then your best friend was a jerk. Good luck seriously in finding new and more quality friends! You'll find some!

The best friend violated one of the fundamental rules of being a worker. They are:

1. Your employer is NEVER your friend. You might be friendly with them but they will replace you in a second so it's best to have the right mindset from the start.

2. Every important correspondence needs to be in writing. If you asked your boss in person whether you could take vacation days, follow up and have them confirm it in an email.

The friend violated rule 1 and in the end it won't have mattered once they get laid off.

Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit

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Post by onion2k »

throwaway98797 wrote: post #330
onion2k wrote: post #273

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After you give notice, at most, the business needs about a week to decide what to do with the work you were handling. In tech, most projects can be deferred, and most services can go into KTLO. Ideally, sure. In real life the employee needs to do a brain dump of handover documents because no one writes anything down.

does anyone ever read those braindumps?

Not top to bottom like a doc, but having it means you can include it in a search when you don't know something. That often proves useful.
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