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OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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I'd bet that what he, and the competition, is realizing is that the bigger models are too expensive to run. Pretty sure Microsoft swapped out Bing for something a lot smaller in the last couple of weeks; Google hasn't even tried to implement a publicly available large model. And OpenAI still has usage caps on their GPT-4. I'd bet that they can still see improvement in performance with GPT-5, but that when they look a…

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Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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dude someone lied their way into being president of the united states all while people fact checked him basically immediately after each lie. lying doesnt make a difference.

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It's usually a good thing to keep recent presidents and near future presidential candidates in memory.

This isn't about some dumb grudge.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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The point is that now we're at the point of diminishing return for increasing model size, unless we find a better modeling architecture than Transformer. I think this is likely true; while all the other companies underestimated the capability of transformer (including Google itself!), OpenAI made a fairly accurate bet on the transformer based on the scaling law, put all the efforts to squeeze it until the last drop a…

I really want to see a gpt-4-turbo model that's almost as inexpensive as gpt-3.5-turbo

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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You can't trust what sama says. Period. He's shown his willingness to deceive for gain. He deleted the codex model because it was better than the text model and only way to explain it is that by training on code instead of just text of human interactions the model develops stronger reasoning abilities (because of higher clarity around logic and higher signal to noise overall in the training data.) So he removed that so researchers don't catch on. Also, why 1 Trillion params is the limit? Why not 2 Trillion. He's been begging for regulations and trying to pull up the ladder behind him. Just really "street smart" thinking but I have not seen any elevated humanity serving thinking coming form him. He would not have taken $100M for a non-profit to do open source research only to bait-and-switch into for profit closed source sold to the highest bidder. Give me a break. Don't believe anything he says (well, use your brain, as he may mix truths and deceptions with the goal of deceiving his competitors... he's not out there to do a service for humanity... if he was, he would have kept it open and non-profit, not basically steal the funds of the non-profit to pocket $29B from it.) It's ridiclous.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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I suspect you are right. We may be stuck at the gpt4 sizes for a bit just because of hardware costs though. As they get bigger it costs too much to run them until our hardware becomes more optimal for these large models at 4 bits or so. I think the YouTube videos is going to be the next big training set. A transformer trained on all text and all of YouTube will be killer amazing at so much. I bet it can understand lo…

> A transformer trained on all text and all of YouTube will be killer amazing at so much. ah yes, a bot where the answer to everything is to buy ridge wallets and play raid shadow legends

They'll give it the premium tier at least

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Seems like a wild claim to make without any examples of gpt models which are bigger and no demonstrably better.

https://twitter.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1646670920214536193 Sam explicitly said that there won't be GPT-5 in the near future, which is pretty clear evidence unless he's blatantly lying in public speaking.

Google recently said transformers wouldn't work ...

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Does he even have any background in machine learning? I always found it bizarre that he was chosen to be OpenAI's CEO...

On the Lex Fridman podcast, he pretty much admitted he's not an AI (per se) and isn't the most excited about the tech (as he could be).

I listened to that podcast but didn't catch the part where he says he isn't that excited. When was that?

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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> A transformer trained on all text and all of YouTube will be killer amazing at so much. ah yes, a bot where the answer to everything is to buy ridge wallets and play raid shadow legends

They'll give it the premium tier at least

Premium won't save you from Raid Shadow Legends. I don't know how but they'll put ads in your dreams if you're not careful.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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"The great supercomputer Deep Thought is the most powerful computer ever built, with one exception. It was designed by hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings, who wanted to know the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything. Its creation annoyed a fair few philosophers, who felt that it was taking over their turf. After seven and a half million years of serious cogitation, Deep Thought spoke the answer. However,…

And that was earth, so are we asking the right questions?
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