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Google has already pulled six products in 2023
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#342Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? I have to imagine so… they’re smart people, and a ton of them lurk here on HN. It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. Anyone wanna bet on if/when Bard gets axed?
It’s interesting to me that they continue to spawn and nix products like this despite the reputation damage it causes. I think the 'problem' is that reputation damage doesn't really impact Google's revenue. They get the overwhelming majority of their money from publishing adverts, with a significant amount on their own properties (search and YouTube). It really doesn't matter if a bunch of gamers decide Stadia screwe…
That may be true, but then if they lose search dominance, they won’t be able to pivot, because no one will trust them.
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#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Surely the people working at Google understand how all these shutdowns look to outsiders, right? Yeah, about like this: https://killedbygoogle.com/ I don't really care if Google is unable, unwilling, or uninterested in supporting anything that isn't G-Suite, search, or ads. Their track record is more than enough for me to dismiss using Google Cloud Platform, or even saving anything of any importance to Google Drive…
Even G-Suite isn't really getting that much support, it's on life support at best. There's so many missing features and bugs and just painfully unergonomic workflows that have been ignored for 10+ years at this point; the long overdue and minimal UI facelift recently didn't really solve any pain points.
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From what I've heard even their performance reviews heavily focus on bringing new products to market or working on exciting projects, so even if Google needs it there's a chance you're at the top of the list for layoffs anyway.
They need to create a subsidiary of Alphabet called Google Maintenance or something and explicitly it only does boring maintenance and promotes on a mechanized schedule.
The traditional way of doing that was through outsourcing to a low-cost country where they paid pennies on the dollar relative to US wages.
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#345A few hours ago I was searching for an application to display 3d data.
I came across a Goole project.
I didn't even look at it twice.
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I work at Google so am perhaps biased, but that article is from 2019 and cloud is now a 20B/yr business and growing. Why does it keep coming up?
Because Google no longer knows how to do customer/developer engagement just as it goes into things that require it more? It doesn't help that it allows others to push opinion pieces in media that build up memes against its products (I honestly believe it's non-trivial part of what killed Google+ - at some point someone believed at Google about it being "ghost town" and started making it more FB-like and pushing "new…
> there's always the fear that Google will just kill the account, possibly shuttering the business.
I get that feeling sometimes about my Gmail account.
If I do get deleted by the algorithm, then I feel the only way I will get support is by posting it on hackernews.
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So is the expectation for every single cloud-connected item or online product that the servers remain online ad vitam aeternam so that future archeologists can still use the item when it's rediscovered and restored in 10,000 years? You just have the wrong expectation for online products.
Strawman. I bought a router. I never expect any router to stop working because the manufacturer flips a switch.
> I bought a router.
You bought a connected router. Again, you just have the wrong expectation for online products. The fact that it was maintained for 8 years should be praised.
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#348Why does Google get grilled so badly for pulling products? Don’t other companies do the exact same thing, and isn’t it their full right to abandon projects when it no longer makes sense?
If you get a rep for doing it then why would a company invest their infra into a GOOG product knowing it could get pulled at anytime? Businesses want services that are reliable and consistent. That's not GOOG.
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I mean the shutdown. Obviously it was not a well launched product, but that's what you get when you hire Phil Harrison.
> it was not a well launched product I'm broadly criticizing Google's ability to launch and maintain products. Launching fucked products falls under this umbrella. The point is betting on Google with your own resources is a bad idea.
Ok. When you replied to a message about whether the product shutdowns were handled well, quoted specifically the"were shut down reasonably well" text, and offered Stadia as a counter-example, I thought you were in fact claiming that Stadia was not shut down well.
My apologies, I should have realized you were not actually replying to that point in any way and just making another generic "Google cancel everything lol" argument.
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When there are really only 3-4 high end phones that's not a great ranking.
but there are many more almost every major brand has essentially their flagship and most do worse than the Pixel Asus, Xiaomi, Huawei, Sony, Vivo, Oppo, Motorola, OnePlus, etc etc all have high-end phones only Apple and Samsung are doing better than Google Pixel
Again, you're clumping all pixels into one category. Even if major Pixel sales seem to be coming from the relatively cheap Pixel 6a.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/21/consumers-are-splurging-on...
"While both Honor and Google’s share of the premium smartphone segment more than doubled in 2022 from 2021, they still only account for around 1% of the pie, so they are still significantly smaller players."
Behind Apple, Samsung, Huawei, and Xiaomi.
To put it in perspective: Pixel was launched 6 years ago which replaced Google Nexus, launched 13 years ago. It's a very minor product that Google has been pouring money into with little to no effect.