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Post by dragonwriter »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

> And OpenAI talks on and on about 'Safety' but all that 'Safety' means is "well, we didn't let anyone allow it to make jokes about fat or disabled people so we're good, right?!"

No, OpenAI “safety” means “don’t let people compete with us”. Mitigating offensive content is just a way to sell that. As are stoking... exactly the fears you cite here, but about AI that isn’t centrally controlled by OpenAI.

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Post by heliophobicdude »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

Hey 93po, can you please temporarily add your contact details in your bio, I would love to write you and regularly check in on your career pivot! I'm also interested as well!

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by jamilton »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #336
ben_w wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your mind is just an emergent property of your brain, which is just a bunch of cells, each of which is merely a bag of chemical reactions, all of which are just the inevitable consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics (because relatively is less than a rounding error at that scale), and that is nothing more than a linear partial differential equation.

People working in philosophy of mind have a rich dialogue about these issues, and its certainly something you can't just encapsulate in a few thoughts. But it seems like it would be worth your time to look into it. :) Ill just say: the issue with this variant of reductivism is its enticingly easy to explain in one direction, but it tends to fall apart if you try to go the other way!

I don't understand what you mean by "the other way".

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by arcadeparade »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

It's extraordinary, openai could probably licence this to Google right now and ask for 25% equity in return

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Post by plutonorm »

raydev wrote: post #285
celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

> I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins You're thinking too long term. Based on my Twitter feed filled with AI gold rush tweets, the goal is to build something/anything while hype is at its peak, and you can secure a a few hundred k or million in profits before the ground shifts underneath you. The playbook is obvious now: just build the quickest path to someone giving you money, maybe it's not useful a…

I'd not heard this on my tpot. But I absolutely agree, the ground is moving so fast and the power is so centralised that the only thing to do is spin up quickly make money, rinse and repeat. The seas will calm in a few years and then you can, maybe, make a longer term proposition.

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Post by MichaelRazum »

endisneigh wrote: post #159

I see a lot of positive sentiment and hype, but ultimately unless they own the phone ecosystem they will lose in the end, imho. In a year Apple and Google will trivially create something equivalent. Those who control the full stack (hardware, software and ecosystem) will be the true winners.

The question is how fast can you replicate it?

People will use the best solution. Chrome came after firefox and ie and opera and become more populare because it was better.

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Post by suby »

beambot wrote: post #117
sour-taste wrote: post #70

Thought 1: If google can get their shit together and actually integrate their LLM with all their services and all the data they have they would have a strong edge over the competition. An LLM that can answer questions based on your calendar, your email, your google docs, youtube/search history, etc. is simultaneously terrifying and interesting. Of course there's also microsoft who does have some popular services, but…

Google is currently in an existential crisis on this front... Microsoft is already way ahead of the game when it comes to integrating LLMs into productivity tools & search. This recent product announcement about Microsoft 365 integration is almost magical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf-dbS9CcRU Best of all: Advertising needn't be the business model! And Microsoft is a major investor / partner for OpenAI.

The problem is, this will have downstream effects. Google funnels people onto third party websites and these third party websites are able to sustain themselves thanks to the ad revenue they make from traffic. We need other players to make money other than the middleman.

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Post by esclerofilo »

gitfan86 wrote: post #311
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Yes you are right. But who was also right were the people that didn't want a highway built near their town because criminals could drive in from a nearby city in a stolen car commit crimes and get out of town before the police could find them. The world is going to be VERY different 3 years from now. Some of it will be bad, some of it will be good. But it is going to happen no matter what OpenAI does.

Highway inevitability is a fallacy. They could've built a railway.

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Post by crop_rotation »

qgin wrote: post #328

This coming on the heels of the super underwhelming Bard release makes me actually wonder for the first time if Google has the ability to keep up. Not because I doubt their technical capabilities, but because they're just getting out-launched by a big factor.

This might be the biggest threat to Google search (apart from OS vendors changing defaults) in a long long time. One problem Google faces is that they have to make money via search. Several other products are subsidized via search, so taking a hit on search revenue itself is out of the question. Compared to Microsoft which makes money on other stuff, search (and knowledge discovery) is more like a complement, on which they can easily operate on near break even point for a very long time (maybe even make it a loss leader).

If Google had to launch something similar to New Bing to general availability, the cost of search for sure would go up and margins will go down. Is the google organisational hierarchy even setup to handle a hit on search margins? AFAIK search prints money and supports several other loss making products. Even GCP was not turning a profit last I checked.

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Post by billiam »

The blog post(1) from Stephen Wolfram is epic and has a lot of implications for how science and engineering is going to get done in the future. Tl;dr he seems willing to let ChatGPT shape how people will interact with his computational language and the data it unlocks. He genuinely doesn't seem to know where it will go but makes the case for Wolfram Language being the language that ChatGPT uses to compute a lot of things. But I think it more likely ChatGPT will make his natural interface to Wolfram (Wolfram|Alpha) quickly obsolete and end up modifying or rewriting Wolfram Language so it can use it more effectively. He makes the case that "true" AI is going to be possible with this combination of neural net-based "talking machines" like ChatGPT and languages like Wolfram. I remain skeptical, but it might shape human research for years to come.

1. https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/03/chatgpt-gets-its...

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