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Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by fomine3 »

starkparker wrote: post #144
JonChesterfield wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

QMK sounds like the keyboard thing. What things can you do with an arm chip sending input to a laptop? Imagination failure here.

Programmable per-key remapping, layered modifiers that you can toggle per app or workflow (ie. quick language layout swaps, temporary low-level remaps for games that don't support remapping, Blender/Photoshop/editor-specific remaps for personal ergonomics, etc.). Tap-hold functions to send different keycodes or modifiers when you tap vs. hold down a key, often used for home-row mods that move modifier keys into the h…

Just curious why they chose RPi instead of cheaper AVR. Maybe because it's more hackable thanks to overkill resources.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by Gigachad »

foxandmouse wrote: post #155

Is there any way I can interact with a framework laptop before buying it? I've always loved laptop hardware, something about having all the power of a computer to go seems so freeing to me. forever I've been searching for the 'perfect machine' (granted perfect is relative to the time). ThinkPads were my favourite when IBM owned the brand, and since apple switched to intel nothing came close to the complete package of…

Linux is really close to being ready for use in the MacBook now. I have been testing it every few weeks and imo the only thing preventing me using it for work is thunderbolt support and better Bluetooth. Thunderbolt is supposedly in development right now.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by CarVac »

nrp wrote: post #323
CarVac wrote: post #286

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Is there a chance you could have individual scissor switch key modules made for DIY ergonomic layouts on a custom PCB? The height limitations of the 16" laptop are too low for low-profile discrete mechanical switches.

That is a really interesting idea and something we'll explore.

Thanks! I use a 46-key ergo layout (Mitosis) that would be perfect for a laptop and have always itched to have it integrated into the computer.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by yumraj »

zmmmmm wrote: post #329

It seems to be a secret how much RAM these things have - is it embarrassingly small, or nobody cares? It's been a revelation having 64gb in my Macbook, I never want to go back.

what's secret?

Even the Intel 13" can be configured and ordered with a max 64GB DDR4 RAM for a total of $240, so am sure that the 16" would be configurable with at least that much.

AMD can be configure for 64GB DDR5 for $320.

Again, that is total $240 for 64GB RAM. Apple charges $800 to upgrade from 16GB to 64GB.

RAM can also be purchased separately from the marketplace[0], or from a retailer of your choice, if cheaper.

[0] https://frame.work/products/ram?v=P2032X2

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by iLoveOncall »

squarefoot wrote: post #309

"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

I mean, can't you just use the laptop?

I see the value proposition that this has in the particular case of Framework where you update certain parts, but the vast majority of laptops cannot have any change beside the RAM (if you're lucky) and the storage (same).

So in those situations, the best PC case is the one you already have: the laptop.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by iLoveOncall »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #192
kup0 wrote: post #108

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Linus has always been upfront about this investment and I believe some of his content was from before the investment took place. He's explained his reasoning for investing at length and has included a disclaimer in places where necessary. So this is a very uncharitable take. There's plenty of things to cringe or criticize LTT for- but this just isn't it

…I’m not criticizing LTT but hey still got the typical “Linus does no wrong” take. My critique was on Framework not disclosing themselves that their quote is from someone with a stake in their product now.

Framework received this review from LTT before they were ever affiliated, so what's the issue?

If you buy a McDonald's share you need to update your Google Maps review of the one in your old neighborhood from 10 years ago to disclose that you are part owner?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by celestialcheese »

O_H_E wrote: post #42
chromakode wrote: post #22

I love how this launch included new reuse paths for old components, including a new mainboard case [1] and battery / screen case designs. If Framework maintains mechanical compatibility between generations, things are going to get really interesting. [1] https://frame.work/products/cooler-master-mainboard-case

salvaging old laptop battery as a power bank made me actually lol in real life.

There's a big community of people out there doing just this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao1mwEcPsEk

https://cellsaviors.com/blog/how-to-salvage-18650-cells

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by wmf »

nrp wrote: post #218
wmf wrote: post #156

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anything that communicates over Thunderbolt and fits in the physical module specs In other words, only the GPU modules that Framework chooses to make.

We’ve opened the specs specifically to avoid this scenario! The information we have up on GitHub today is enough to get started on module development, and we’ll share any additional information that is useful to enable third party board makers.

My concern is more about business than technical factors. The NRE for such a module is going to be significant so the addressable market needs to be pretty big to justify it. Third-party modules could also get killed off by first-party ones that come later.

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Post by jessikat »

nrp wrote: post #238
frankjr wrote: post #33

> Coming later in 2023: Belgium, Taiwan, Italy, Spain Does anybody know why they do this country by country roll out? I'd be perfectly happy to order a US layout laptop but they don't allow me to place an order.

We wrote a blog post a couple of years ago about what goes into launching into new countries: https://frame.work/blog/scaling-up-infrastructure

I'm kind of surprised that New Zealand isn't available when Australia is. We tend to share a lot of regulatory standards and such.
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