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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by camjohnson26 »

wtf_is_up wrote: post #295
d23 wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did this meme of them being a cash incinerator come from (other than from Musk, hoping people didn't look into the public statements)? Last time I looked, they had a few profitable quarters on the books. Looking at the last annual statement, I see a 200M loss on 5B revenue, with them sitting on 8B in assets, 2B of which is in cash. That's nothing close to a cash incinerator. As far as I can tell, tightening up…

> who appears to have made the problem 100x worse. Where is that reflected in the quarterly earnings report?

They don’t have a quarterly earnings report because they’re a private company now, and their revenue has dropped by 40% according to an email sent from a manager. Ironically, we can only really know their cash position pre acquisition, and the only source for their being a “cash incinerator” is Elon’s word, which to any reasonable person is worth exactly zero at this point.

I only need one example but I have dozens. The only one that matters is he banned journalists from the platform after promising to make it a haven of free speech. It’s objectively one of the more hypocritical things a public figure has done in recent years.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by cliveb »

Tweetdeck provides access to cherry pick from a goldmine of fresh search data by 'likes' and retweets. The latest tweetdeck is tough slogging to use.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by hef19898 »

RC_ITR wrote: post #267
sneak wrote: post #250

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Interesting to me that when Twitter was ascendant the same predictions of doom were not made so frequently when the fail whale was a regular occurrence. It's possible Twitter didn't need to be spending all the money they were to be maintaining five nines or whatever, given the shift in product focus (humans and not a general/universal message bus - bots can't @-mention anymore, etc). Given that they are unprofitable,…

> Given that they are unprofitable, if I were a shareholder I would be upset if I did not see experiments being run to see how much cost can be cut and where. Twitter will never get to $44bn market cap again (much less a valuation with a decent IRR) by cutting costs alone. They need to grow way more than they need to cut costs. If any of those experiments lead to less growth (which I’d argue is true of a broken Tweet…

If I were a former Twitter shareholder, I'd be extremely grateful to the board for selling the whole thing for 44 Bn. No way tje company would have reached this evaluation without Musk. And Musk knew it, he just signed himself a contract he couldn't het out of.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by Joker_vD »

banana_giraffe wrote: post #137
O__________O wrote: post #84

Worth noting Twitter’s status page claims it is “operational” and no events are listed under history section for past 180-days, which is obviously wrong: - https://status.twitter.com/ * Not to mention the SSL certificate appears to be expired too. ———- EDIT-01: Appears there’s a status page just for the API: - https://api.twitterstat.us/ EDIT-02: Wow, Twitter is using Twitter to post status updates: - https://twitter…

It's not expired. That site is using the wrong cert (ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID). How odd.

Browsers still look at the commonName?.. Hasn't this field been deprecated since 2000?

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by tablespoon »

xwdv wrote: post #269
paxys wrote: post #151

There were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various s…

4. The institutional knowledge is not gone, in the event of any massive catastrophe employees who previously worked at Twitter can return as “consultants” and charge very high rates to fix issues as they occur. It’s pay as you go.

> 4. The institutional knowledge is not gone, in the event of any massive catastrophe employees who previously worked at Twitter can return as “consultants” and charge very high rates to fix issues as they occur. It’s pay as you go.

What you're describing is the loss of institutional knowledge with a fantasy tacked on the side.

1) There's no reason to expect those employees would come back, even at rates far higher than Musk is likely willing to pay. Everything indicates Musk has destroyed a lot of goodwill with his shambolic layoffs, and getting people to come back is one of the situations where you need goodwill.

You're basically talking about gig-work on a shitty boss's terms. Only desperate people would play that game, and the people Musk would need probably aren't the desperate ones.

2) Any employees that come back are going to be rusty and lack the institutional of what happened after they left, so their effectiveness at immediate fire-fighting will be greatly reduced.

3) If there's a "massive catastrophe" at Twitter, do you think they even know who to call back? I wouldn't be surprised if they've lost a lot of the institutional knowledge about who knew what, at this point.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by MrOwnPut »

runarberg wrote: post #333
MrOwnPut wrote: post #276

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Who said they were underpaid?

Nobody, but you must see how this can be abused to do so. A system that can be abused will be abused given the right incentives. As it stands companies are incentivized to pay as little for labor as they can get away with, and if they are allowed to “allow” workers to work excessive overtime, they will. And it will cost every other worker our free time. If you enjoy your work, that’s great, just do your work during w…

I'm simply saying you don't know the situation, how GP was compensated, etc.

Yes, shit companies exist and abuse their employees. You quit and move on. There's no indication that this was happening.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by dmonitor »

SauciestGNU wrote: post #177
doomleika wrote: post #90

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I would say it’s just H1B, hard to jump ship when you are on such a tight window

Just had the wild idea that Elon fires anyone who's away from their workstation long enough to be potentially interviewing elsewhere. Just crazy enough an idea to be something he'd pull.

you have chosen an interesting choice of topic for fanfiction

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by [deleted] »

sneak wrote: post #251
jjeaff wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but my recollection is that the whale fail was usually due to huge growth or unprecedented traffic peaks. I don't think Twitter is growing at a fast rate any longer.

Musk claims often that Twitter engagement numbers are at record highs. I don't believe these are lies.

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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by isoprophlex »

sidfthec wrote: post #294
isoprophlex wrote: post #288

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[flagged]

I blocked him and I don't see his posts any more. What did you try to do? I'm the opposite of an Elon fan, but so many people don't seem to know how to actually use social media. Who/what you follow and who you block can completely change your experience.

I thought I scrubbed things by hitting "I am not interested in Elon Musk". Prompted by your tweet I checked what it says, and the offending post on my timeline has an option "I am not interested in Business People".

So that's probably how it got through. I still stand by my grossly hyperbolic diatribe about how twitter is definitely getting shittier, though.

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