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Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by samiru »

matwood wrote: post #276
samiru wrote: post #196

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I wonder if those who complain about Teams actually use it. They might not. My company forces us to use Google Chat. I would take Teams any day.

> My company forces us to use Google Chat. I would take Teams any day. For video or text chat or both? Meet + Slack is my preferred solution. IMO Google Meet is the easiest to use video meeting software. Click link and the person is dropped in the meeting. Slack is the best text chat. Zoom is fine. Teams is a dumpster fire on my mac. I have a couple external meetings that are Teams and I have to remember start trying…

> For video or text chat or both?

To keep things simple, I would like to use Teams for both.

I do not recall any issues on using Teams on Windows. On Mac neither, but most of my work is done on Windows, so even I am a Mac user I do not have that much experience of using Teams on Mac.

Edit. Even at the moment I am forced to use Google products at work for communication, I can't say that I have had any "issues" with those products either. I think the dislike/like is mostly about feeling. Maybe at some point in my working life I got used to Teams and that stuck?

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by blibble »

wvenable wrote: post #218
jacquesm wrote: post #194

Teams is so horrific we banned it. If you force us to use teams you'll have to find another supplier. Seriously, it is incomprehensible that Microsoft would ship something so utterly broken. I know they don't have a reputation for writing good software but Teams is on another level, and I don't mean that in a positive way. I've really tried to get it to work but it is so messed up that I don't think it can be done. M…

It's so weird -- I use Teams all the time and I've never had a serious problem with it. It's not the greatest software ever made but it's certainly functional. It's definitely getting a lot of work done to it.

I tried hiding a channel once

that was it, there's apparently no way to ever get it back unless I can remember its exact name (which I can't)

I learnt my lesson

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by blibble »

kenjackson wrote: post #320
wvenable wrote: post #218

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It's so weird -- I use Teams all the time and I've never had a serious problem with it. It's not the greatest software ever made but it's certainly functional. It's definitely getting a lot of work done to it.

We also use it every day. That said, I feel like I know a lot of devs who think there are a lot of things that are unusable (or the equivalent). Everything from Visual Studio to the display on their iPhone to modern cinema and science fiction in general to In-and-Out burgers. As a general rule, I discount their take on pretty much anything. Is Teams great? No. Its better than what I used before it though, and its pro…

> Is Teams great? No. Its better than what I used before it though

dare I ask what you used before?

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by vladvasiliu »

tristor wrote: post #305
wintogreen74 wrote: post #266

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>> but its pretty much worst-in-class for…everything it does It has good outlook calendar integration; joining from a single click in my calendar view is much nicer than having to open the occurrence & find the zoom link.

Zoom and WebEx both have this if you install the plugins, as well.

Don't know about zoom, but webex meetings get a "join" button in my outlook web client. I don't have any kind of plugin installed, and I even run this on Firefox on Linux.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by themoonisachees »

casenmgreen wrote: post #317
killjoywashere wrote: post #308

I don’t know much about Teams (we’re a Google Workspace/Meet shop) but I know they are selling all sorts of crazy access rights packages because any given Teams group I meet with, if they send the invite, it’s a different connection experience. You need an account. You need an account on their domain. You don’t need an account, but you need a guest account. You need your own account with Microsoft. You need a user na…

Yes. I once tried to use Teams on Linux. Eventually, I discovered buried in the package description text in Synaptic package manager that "this software only works with a corporate MS account". This information could not be found on-line, the error messages were completely incorrect, there was negative on-line support - which is to say, there's a public forum MS run which has a bunch of confused people asking what th…

As a sysadmin who has had the displeasure of working on window server, this experience is consistent across most Microsoft products. Random forums, one guy asking for info but he doesn't work for ms, just knows a lot. Makes you wonder how he learned that in the first place.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by rozab »

matwood wrote: post #276
samiru wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if those who complain about Teams actually use it. They might not. My company forces us to use Google Chat. I would take Teams any day.

> My company forces us to use Google Chat. I would take Teams any day. For video or text chat or both? Meet + Slack is my preferred solution. IMO Google Meet is the easiest to use video meeting software. Click link and the person is dropped in the meeting. Slack is the best text chat. Zoom is fine. Teams is a dumpster fire on my mac. I have a couple external meetings that are Teams and I have to remember start trying…

It's fascinating how good the Google Meet experience is in contrast to how bad Google Chat is. Chat seems like such a simpler problem, but it's still missing basic features like working search

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by vladvasiliu »

wintogreen74 wrote: post #266
dragonwriter wrote: post #238

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Teams is minimally usable, but its pretty much worst-in-class for…everything it does. It’s two compelling selling points seem to be (1) that “nobody every got fired for buying IBM” now applies to Microsoft more than IBM, and (2) moreover, users don’t actually buy Teams qua Teams, they get a Microsoft 365 subscriptions for some of the things where Microsoft has not-worst-in-class solutions, and Teams comes along for t…

>> but its pretty much worst-in-class for…everything it does It has good outlook calendar integration; joining from a single click in my calendar view is much nicer than having to open the occurrence & find the zoom link.

This works fine for me with Webex links from outlook, they send me to the right URL when I click join.

But What trips me up is that we have a sister company, which also uses Teams. For some reason, when they send invites, I have to open the meeting details and click on the link to join. This happens in both Outlook and Teams' calendar module.

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by blibble »

jacquesm wrote: post #240
wvenable wrote: post #237

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Broken means "doesn't work". I've used Teams for 2 years now for conferencing, chat, desktop sharing, etc. It works just fine. I think a lot of Microsoft hate is clouding judgement here. People want Teams to suck.

I simply can not get it to work. Note that we are on Linux/Chromebooks depending on the person in the team and this alone seems to be a major barrier for something that should be a non-issue. Every two bit video chat site in the world seems to have this figured out.

> I simply can not get it to work. Note that we are on Linux/Chromebooks

I'm sure Microsoft will get right on improving that

"DOS aint done 'til Lotus won't run"

Re: GitHub staff are required to use Teams by Sep 1, 2023

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Post by Kwpolska »

hackmiester wrote: post #318
xattt wrote: post #282

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My broken is fixing something all the time in order to get it to work correctly. Why does Teams occasionally load up with the usual icons showing the broken image icon? Why did my organization create a special “Fix Teams” utility?

My org does not use Teams at all. But I get invited to external Teams meetings sometimes. As a result, Teams is on my computer, adds itself to the startup items, then opens up to a login window every time I turn on my computer. The X button does not work to close the window. I have to open Task Manager and kill it every time. I can disable it in startup items, but it puts itself back there, next time I join a Teams m…

You can use Teams from your browser, no need to install it.
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