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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

>More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. My friend who still lives in the Valley says this kind of sentiment is incredibly common there nowadays, e.g. advertising an open position and having discussions internally that a man won't be hired for the role. It's pretty surprising to me, because statistics show that most major careers have a gender imbalance in one di…

Software engineering is a high prestige job. Rightly or wrongly, most female dominated jobs are not.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

How would background check services get hold of this information before trial? Were you arrested? I'm sorry, but based on my experience with these systems, this sounds like a fake story.

Even the detail about your bank accounts being closed doesn't add up at all.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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> Olohan said he began feeling increasing pressure from his supervisor, who told him that there were “obviously too many white guys” on his management team. In July he was encouraged to fire a male employee to make room on his team for a woman, the suit claims. This is the most crazy section. Why physical characteristics like gender or ethnicity should be important in the management selection? And if yes, why only th…

Not that crazy. Such allegations against Google are common. There was a recruiter there a few years ago who accused them of tasking recruiters to not hire men.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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post #5

> When he asked why he was non-inclusive, Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this.

> I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this. "From each according to his ability to each according to his need" is not capitalism. "Capitalism" most certainly doesn't value equality or diversity.

"From each according to his ability to each according to his need" is generative AI. The greatest leveller of skills ever created.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Since you didn't mention what happened to the accuser after making the false allegation, I'm going to assume the company just wrote off the incident as a simple misunderstanding.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

It's sad to me that the most upvoted comment in response to a sexual harassment is about false harassment claims. Imagine the roles were reversed and it were a woman being harassed. What would the response to this comment be?

A thousand white knights riding to her rescue, trampling due process?

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

It's sad to me that the most upvoted comment in response to a sexual harassment is about false harassment claims. Imagine the roles were reversed and it were a woman being harassed. What would the response to this comment be?

The woman in the article made allegedly false "microaggression" claims against the man.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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This specific comment is so annoying >Olohan said he reported the issue to Google’s human resources department the following week, but nothing ever came of the complaint. The HR rep “openly admitted … that if the complaint was ‘in reverse’ — a female accusing a white male of harassment — the complaint would certainly be escalated,” according to the lawsuit.

Honestly, that's the allegation that I find hardest to believe at face value (the close second being "Olohan was told that he had shown favouritism towards high-performing employees").

While I have no difficulty in believing that, in practice, a similar complaint with reversed genders would be taken more seriously in some|many|most|all (?) HR departments, I cannot believe that any HR rep would openly admit to that fact, let alone to an affected party. It may indeed have happened, but such extreme clumsiness on the part of Google's HR beggars belief.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real issue is that people stopped caring about whatever the justice system is going to decide. There's a new religion of social justice, and this religion is harsher than even the old religions. The old religions you were at least judged by an omnipotent being who could see the whole picture. This new woke religion have you judged by a dumb mob. Everyone's playing the judge and everyone's responsible to punishing…

Its a synthetic religion, alright, but it wouldnt have spread that much, if people were happy with the old religions. At the core is the same mechanism working in other religions. Get the sexual different to provide matrimonial contract security (aka a proto law version), which now is replaced with a provide social security. I suspect, this is one of the reasons of record numbers of men dropping out of working societ…

Old religions at least have forgiveness. You can confess your sins and repent.

This new religion doesn't have anything like that.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Not quite as damaging, but I was accused of harassment from some blue-haired weirdo on a video call with nearly a hundred people at work. Like you, this was a person I had zero interaction with prior to the call. I considered getting a lawyer involved because I feared this could blow up, but was talked out of it by my boss, who asked me to apologize and "let's leave it at that".

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