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Plant-based meat is turning out to be a flop

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Post by petepete »

manojlds wrote: post #206
brnt wrote: post #171

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Sausages always seemed such obvious candidates. Many nondry sausages are already often a majority nonmeat. They get their flavor already from plant derived flavorants. Yet mostly fake meat products are burger and chicken nugget replacements. I've got to say, the fake chicken schnitzels are the first one that I really can't distinguish from the real chicken schnitzel. (Before the purists pour in, yes, compared to supe…

Here in the UK, there's a lot of vegan sausages. The others like vegan / vegetarian burgers and such are relatively less common.

Vegan Richmond are among the best, better than their (somewhat) meaty alternatives in my opinion.

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Post by dfxm12 »

enobrev wrote: post #332
cduzz wrote: post #322

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Didn't our ancestors just use paper for such things? Or cloth? I guess lots of them died of dentistry before getting to oregon, but still.

Killer cavities or misspelling of "dysentery"?

Knowing that the dentists of the early-mid 19th century were mostly trained as barbers, probably both.

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Post by scythe »

the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #309
lampe3 wrote: post #161

Can we add an "in the US" at the end? Since for EU countries this is not true. I'm living in sweden now and lived in germany and poland. Plant-based meat products are growing in numbers and the price of meat is going so high that its cheaper to buy the plant-based one. In Germany one producer of meat sausages want to turn 100% plant based[1]. I will not go into the whats better and not for you. Since this highly depe…

There is definitely more and more meat alternatives in the stores now. One other curious development are these blended meats like 50% meat, 50% mushrooms or 50% meat and 50% plant.

Taco Bell has been selling this as "seasoned beef" for quite a while now.

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Post by Nursie »

shapefrog wrote: post #298
Nursie wrote: post #74

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> I dont understand the obsession with reproducing meat out of plants. I don't understand why someone has to bring this up every. single. time. People like meat. Those same people may want to become vegetarian for ethical reasons. They still like meat though. Oh look, a product that can fit in that "I like meat" slot without killing animals. Sounds tasty. What else is there to understand?

> ethical reasons I like the consequence of murder; the texture, the taste, the blood, the everything ... but not the bit where something actually dies.

Yup. Not sure it's that hard to understand.

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Post by FpUser »

Insanity wrote: post #288
rob74 wrote: post #229

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I'm from Germany, and I can confirm that the number of vegan alternatives to any imaginable animal product have increased sharply both in quantity and quality over the last years, to the point that you can get good vegan alternatives at discount supermarkets now. Even in the US, I wonder if what Bloomberg is calling a "flop" is a real flop or just some companies falling short of their over-ambitious forecasts (or the…

In the EU the quality is good of the plant-based meats. In the US/Canada is it quite bad though. Maybe it is the same situation for regular meat, can’t comment on that. But finding actually good tasting and healthy meat replacement here in Canada is a challenge.

>"finding actually good tasting and healthy meat replacement here in Canada is a challenge"

I can confirm. Few things I tried - I did not like it at all. Also I do not know about now but back way before COVID when I actually tried this fake meat the cost was outrageous. Throwing some decent fresh meat into a grinder and turning it into burger tastes way better and was way cheaper.

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Post by hef19898 »

zidad wrote: post #321
blowski wrote: post #290

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Normally, but not always. I can get freshly produced sausages from my local butcher.

"fresh" sausages most likely contains some of those preservatives too, as they prevent worse things like botulism. Unless maybe they're made the same day as you consume them?

According to our local, nitrate free, butcher freshly slaughtered meat contains enoigh natural nitrate-alternatives to not require additional nitrate if ham, sausages and so on are prepared soon enough.

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Post by AzzieElbab »

rob74 wrote: post #229
lampe3 wrote: post #161

Can we add an "in the US" at the end? Since for EU countries this is not true. I'm living in sweden now and lived in germany and poland. Plant-based meat products are growing in numbers and the price of meat is going so high that its cheaper to buy the plant-based one. In Germany one producer of meat sausages want to turn 100% plant based[1]. I will not go into the whats better and not for you. Since this highly depe…

I'm from Germany, and I can confirm that the number of vegan alternatives to any imaginable animal product have increased sharply both in quantity and quality over the last years, to the point that you can get good vegan alternatives at discount supermarkets now. Even in the US, I wonder if what Bloomberg is calling a "flop" is a real flop or just some companies falling short of their over-ambitious forecasts (or the…

Do you think this trend will continue if the price of meat falls?

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

matsemann wrote: post #82
Reubend wrote: post #28

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> it is no surprise, that people aren't willing to pay more for an inferior product You hit the nail on its head. I think there's still hope for meat substitutes if they can improve their flavor while also lowering their price. But I'm not holding out hope for that.

Mainly because of meat subsidies, though. They don't need to compete when governments all over the world hand them billions.

At least in the US, at first glance it looks like corn and soybeans receive much higher subsidies than livestock.

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Post by nxpnsv »

lampe3 wrote: post #161

Can we add an "in the US" at the end? Since for EU countries this is not true. I'm living in sweden now and lived in germany and poland. Plant-based meat products are growing in numbers and the price of meat is going so high that its cheaper to buy the plant-based one. In Germany one producer of meat sausages want to turn 100% plant based[1]. I will not go into the whats better and not for you. Since this highly depe…

Similar in Austria, veg products are increasing in quality and availability. There is even a 100% vegan burger king...
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