Twitter's creditors must be just foaming at the mouth right now. Their investment is just cratering in value.
Musk should buy the debt himself for 40c on the dollar at this point
Promotion of alternative social platforms policy
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#342Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, what a great way to find out about alternatives. I'd never heard of "Post" and "Nostr".
Post ( https://post.news ) is probably the closest to a well funded Twitter clone that I’ve seen. Very similar UX. Supposed to have more emphasis on publishers but that’s not very apparent yet in my feed there. Right now I use sigmoid.social for tech stuff and Post for mainstream chatter.
> well funded Twitter clone
In a way that are the failure modes of Twitter itself. Centralized, funded by VCs, susceptible to the whims of the millionaire owners.
Wasn’t Post the clone where, according to their TOS, you couldn’t "discriminate by net worth"?
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#343Now that they’ve made it abundantly clear that the whole “free speech absolutism” approach is obviously not being pursued, I don’t see why Twitter didn’t just take the same approach that was used when Apple, Google, Amazon, etc. deplatformed Parler. Just claim that these platforms are filled with hate speech and violent rhetoric, and cherry-pick a few examples to use as evidence.
As for the banning of ElonJet and some journalists for sharing location information, they should just say the new policy is being implemented to combat “stochastic terrorism.”
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#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it will not get Carmack banned, because he is not promoting his FB account. He links to a news worthy post.
It is very clearly against the rules as written. They cover “…linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter…”
> What is not a violation of this policy?
> We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above.
This looks like a cross post from John Carmack's Facebook post, which is not in violation.
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#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it will not get Carmack banned, because he is not promoting his FB account. He links to a news worthy post.
It is very clearly against the rules as written. They cover “…linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter…”
Reread the what is not prohibited section.
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#346There is no money is promoting free speech or at least not the kind of money Twitter needs to pay back it's investors and creditors. There have been multiple poor business decisions since the buyout. The "burn it the ground and start over mentality" is effectively placing the company in a startup position. Given the risk of startups it would have likely been cheaper/smarter to start a new company than pursue a levera…
Destroying Twitter, or at least rendering it unusable by its current audience, is clearly the objective. I'm not entirely sure why but it seems to be to "own the libs". (edit: I have been pointed at the EU rules https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... under which "gatekeeper platforms" may not "prevent consumers from linking up to businesses outside their platforms". However I expect Twitter t…
Maybe, but I don't feel particularly owned. This feels more like a neighbor had a confederate flag up, and the neighborhood asked him to take it down, so he burned his own house down to spite everyone. I guess you showed us, weird combative neighbor!
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#347Banning links to Facebook? Really? This flying by the seat of the pants moderation style reminds me of friends in highschool running their own phpBB instances and IRC channels.. Also, Telegram, Discord, Tumblr aren't listed? Lol.
If they list Tumblr might as well list MySpace
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#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're saying that low quality low information comments are "sticking it to him and his supporters" as opposed to a more thought out comment regarding the policy or direction? And this will "wake up" his supporters by calling him a narcissist and thin skinned for the umpteenth time (in the same comment thread!)
I'd say more that there have been years of fawning comments with no value over Elon being a genius... Those low quality comments are turning to follow the trend to Elon hate. Call it virtual signaling, following the crowd, echo chamber. It happens. I see the same thing for the hype cycle with kube and other tech cycles as well. It's actually an indirect benefit for me with hn as it's usually ahead of the hype cycle.
Yes, the "he's a genius" posts are equally as cringy. As were the "its a private platform, build your own if you don't like it posts" circa earlier last year were awful too. The answer isn't to do the same thing but switch sides.
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#349Influencers cross-promote their social channels all the time, since each social media network has a different audience. An influencer might post how-to videos on TikTok, re-post to YouTube shorts, then re-purpose the same content as a micro-blog threads on Twitter. There's even a cottage industry of link tree / bio landing pages that consolidate all of your social handles, featured posts, etc into one page. Are those…
Advertisers do too.
Not being able to cross promote is a good reason to put your ad dollars somewhere else. Especially for small businesses which are run through the social stores like Facebook Shops/Marketplace or Instagram Shopping.
I wonder if Meta will make a fuss about how this "harms small business", or do they only do that when browser developers add anti-tracking technology?
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#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk is being revealed as an emperor with no clothes. He was originally lauded because he had great ideas, put his money where his mouth was, and delivered some great products. And yeah, his companies needed to be a grind to succeed where so many have failed (Tesla being the only American car startup to succeed in something like 100 years). But going into a respected tech company like Twitter and gutting 80% of the w…
> But going into a respected tech company like Twitter and gutting 80% of the workforce, acting like you know better than the engineers who built the thing, and rolling out and back policies and features without any real plan or thought, is showing that Elon believes he can just rinse and repeat his grindcore/dictatorial culture on any company and it will be successful. I think gutting 80% of your workforce and showi…
> I think gutting 80% of your workforce and showing that Twitter will continue running as a site is a pretty incredible POC.
Twitter may have had some bloat, but it also had excellent SREs and solid reliability engineering. Nobody who knew about that expected it to collapse overnight.
But serious failures will happen, as the graceful degradation turns into not-so-graceful outages, new features break things in unexpected ways, and the remaining infra staff burn out. It’s just a matter of time.