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Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by sli »

soniman wrote: post #296
progman32 wrote: post #197

Linux/*BSD may still be that awkward friend who sometimes misreads your intentions and causes awkward moments or knocks glasses over, but at least tries to respect you (snapd excepted). Windows these days doesn't seem to respect you. There's a difference in my mind between struggling to make your computer do something (because nobody made it easy yet) and struggling to make your computer do something (because a marke…

Linux would be best for the unsophisticated users that just want a browser and maybe OpenOffice, but those are the users least likely to try it.

I put Linux on my mom's laptop when it needed a good refurbish for this exact reason and IT support requests from her dropped to basically zero, even for seemingly platform-agnostic stuff like printing. Did everything she needed, I could update it for her over ssh, and just chugged along perfectly reliably since she isn't a poweruser that's poking at every part of her distro.

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Post by Daegalus »

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #76
datatrashfire wrote: post #14

After years of thinking "wsl2 is enough for me", I switched to fedora as an experiment and I have not looked back once.

For me, Manjaro, and later (purely out of masochism) Arch. :) I did "look back" for certain AAA games that either don't work on Linux or DO work but their launcher doesn't (e.g., Blizzard), but AAA game companies have done me the solid of hypercommercializing themselves into unbearable mediocrity. So, even if I want to play one of those games now, I'm not too hurried to wait for a few years so Proton support makes it…

just as a heads up, the blizzard launcher works fine. there was a short period it didn't due to some bug, that they fixed on their end for the Linux community.

I play wow, ow2 and such just fine from the launcher. so give it a try again if you've been avoiding it.

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Post by Maxburn »

thebiss wrote: post #279
Maxburn wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too my friend, I find mint a decent general desktop OS and I rarely touch windows for personal use. Still struggling with iTunes though.

Can you use music.apple.com under chrome on mint?

Pretty much the only use case I have for itunes is to sideload music to my iphone, so I go into my windows partition a couple times a month to do it.

Re: Not-so-great features coming soon to Windows 11

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

Windows is in the business of selling software to business clients (And slowly migrating to being a cloud provider business).

The only reason Windows happens to have 'home' editions and pervasive software in schools is to perpetuate the 'familiarity' argument when Businesses are doing procurement.

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Post by WalterBright »

WalterBright wrote: post #208
jimmaswell wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish antitrust enforcement focused on this stuff again. Remember when MS merely including a web browser at all was brought into question?

> Remember when MS merely including a web browser at all was brought into question? The very first MS-DOS also included a text editor - for free! Oh, the humanity! Those evil Redmondians!

I'm curious what the difference is between a free text editor is and a free browser included with the OS. Neither are functions of the operating system. Both have other companies providing such functionality.

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Post by Maxburn »

wombatpm wrote: post #260
Maxburn wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too my friend, I find mint a decent general desktop OS and I rarely touch windows for personal use. Still struggling with iTunes though.

Everyone struggles with iTunes. And every update makes it worse. I’ve used it on Mac and Windows and both suck

I just don't have a mac, that's really the only issue here. I went out of my way years ago to try and wrap my head around itunes, all the (too many) things it does etc. They mess that up a bit with updates (not as bad as windows) but it isn't terrible once you realize it's a whole bunch of apps rolled up into one. It doesn't do any of them really great but it's just a gateway to my devices so it isn't horrible.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

PostOnce wrote: post #324

Microsoft did a tremendous amount of hard work to convince me to make the effort to migrate away from Windows at home and at work. They want to lease me a word processor. They want to put ads in my digital filing cabinet. They want to take 30% of my software revenue, and when they realized they couldn't have it, they said they'd settle for 12%. No dice. There are zero Windows machines in my home or in my business rig…

> refuse to work with those who are tightly integrated with MS products

And nothing of value was lost

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Post by ffwd »

y-c-o-m-b wrote: post #288
BirAdam wrote: post #8

This kind of crap is what made Windows 10 unusable for me. Everything was infuriating. I’m not a fanboy of anything either. Win2K was great. macOS 10.1-10.4 was wonderful. BeOS, RISCOS, IRIX, NeXT, and even DRDOS have warm places in my heart. These days, I use macOS because I find it the least annoying. It still has too many approval dialogs and notifications, but it isn’t quite as hostile as Windows. Linux and BSD a…

What are you doing with your machine that makes Windows 10 unusable? I've been on Windows 10 for years. I ran O&O ShutUp 10 a long time ago and haven't had any of the problems people are complaining about. I've had people complain about how they "shouldn't need to run Shutup 10" yeah ok valid point, but it's a weak one because I can make that point about anything on any other OS. It takes what - 10 seconds to run the…

This is my experience with Win 10 as well. In fact I dare say, Win 10 in the past 5 years is one of the best desktop OS's of all time. No crashes, perfect customizability to turn off things, fast and responsive.

However that said, I'm extremely worried about Win 11, and when I saw all the things they changed in the taskbar (no text labels, no option to never combine icons), the right click menu and so on, I was very disappointed. I did get the send to menu back with a thing and I know you can use winaerotweaker to get all the old stuff back, but a part of me wants to be on the native OS stuff whenever possible and not change core OS with third party apps. But I'm also worried about what they might further do in the future and in 5-10 years, incompatibility in programs/etc with Win 10 might make using it very bothersome so you have to update at some point.

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Post by Maxburn »

JohnFen wrote: post #45

It's truly amazing how Microsoft insists on making Windows worse with each release. It makes me miss the old odd/even releases where at least half of them weren't bad.

Windows will never again reach the pinnacle that was Windows 7. Win 7 was familiar, stable, powerful just get things done OS. RIP.
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