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Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by verisimi »

zimpenfish wrote: post #252
verisimi wrote: post #154

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Absolutely. But I don't see them banning anyone from speaking. The idea is that people are able to say whatever they like. Their unpopular opinion may enlighten you to some salient information that you were unaware of. Banning, imprisonment, fines, etc, should be reserved for actions. Speaking your mind should be free. Even on privately owned platforms.

> But I don't see them banning anyone from speaking. [1] disagrees. [2] disagrees. [3] disagrees. etc.etc. [1] https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/heres-the-long-list-o... [2] https://jezebel.com/republicans-are-trying-to-ban-speech-abo... [3] https://truthout.org/articles/gops-banning-of-books-and-atta...

Wanting to ban something is different to actually banning people from speaking.

But, no doubt, there are republicans who would do this too. I would say the exact same thing to them, as and when they start actually banning something or someone.

Freedom of speech is not a political position; try not to drag me into the gutter, please!

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Post by deanCommie »

GameOfFrowns wrote: post #96
deanCommie wrote: post #69

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> virtue signaling I despise this term. You don't know people's motivations. These may be genuinely important issues that they are using their audience and reach to magnify and promote. And if you've had the luck/misfortune of becoming famous, should you not use the attention and reach you wield to focus on issues that you think are important in society? > Validation checkmarks will now cost $20/month. A) They're not…

>These may be genuinely important issues that they are using their audience and reach to magnify and promote. This is still Twitter you're talking about. Blue checkmarks are overwhelmingly associated with 'woke' narcissists stoking the flames of the culture war

From the creator of Godwin's Law: https://twitter.com/sfmnemonic/status/1504687870006620163

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by gigglesupstairs »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #149

how about we don't fall into mass hysteria and wait? People don't move from platforms, they drift away naturally. I didn't move away from slashdot, I just found reddit suited my needs and naturally visited the site less and less. and then, I didn't move from reddit to HN, I just used reddit less and less until I realized HN fit my niche more. I still have my slashdot account, but it's been unused since 2014 with redd…

While I agree with your “slow drift” theory mostly, I also believe that the complexity of software/functions also decides how easy is it for a competitor to crop up and create your replica and take your share with better policies or better discovery mechanisms.

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Post by gigglesupstairs »

mariusor wrote: post #287
jaxn wrote: post #269

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But it had a cute bird. And the fail whale. It was approachable and silly. People didn’t take it seriously, but they weren’t intimidated by it. Don’t underestimate the benefit of being underestimated.

That's exactly what Mastodon has: a cute mascot - the mastodon, a silly verb: tooting, etc.

I found the verb cute… 2-3 years back and still haven’t visited Mastodon for that many years. What kept me off was none of my people were there not the tacky name.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by fragmede »

drstewart wrote: post #327
codq wrote: post #321

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I'd say reddit is a far more robust archive of conversational data. Tweets are engineered to be entertaining or informative in small bits, typically designed for maximal impact and/or clout. Sure, reddit has a karma system that incentivizes cleverness, but it's also designed for longer form conversation in a way Twitter can't possibly replicate. The pseudonymity also encourages vulnerability and openness in a way Twi…

>but it's also designed for longer form conversation in a way Twitter can't possibly replicate Reddit sucks at long form conversation. Every thread is stale and gone within 24 hours, so long lived conversations are basically impossible. Thus every topic that comes up is a rehash of the same super basic high level points over and over and over and over and over again.

Reddit does response notification, something that HN does not. If someone responds to a comment of yours, you get a site-specific 'orangered' email that has a quick reply box underneath it.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by [deleted] »

tiarafawn wrote: post #207
jules wrote: post #190

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What's the advantage of being distributed?

Content moderation (which seems to be the biggest point of contention with Twitter right now) is decentralized. By choosing your hoster, you delegate content moderation capabilities for your feed to them. If you don't agree with their policies, you can switch to a different hoster without having to leave the ecosystem. I am not sure to which degree this is practiced/convenient in Mastodon currently, but its distribut…

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Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by Jcowell »

manfre wrote: post #275
oneoff786 wrote: post #261

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Sure. But on some level a bird tweeting makes sense.

If the quality of content for mastadon is on par with Twitter than farting (tooting) out content makes sense too.

I can see members of Twitter being okay with tweeting but not with tooting. Black Twitter for instance has a lot of cultural slang that works and Interlopes with the “Bird App”. I can personally only seeing “tooting” and the whale being nothing but flame material that will further hurt it’s brand and this adoption.

Re: Ask HN: What social media site could replace Twitter?

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Post by Zak »

blacklight wrote: post #150
geuis wrote: post #132

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> Millions have been using the Fediverse for years Any evidence for this? Seems like this is something a few hundred or thousand even know about. That's a far cry from hundreds of thousands of millions.

There are 6M estimated accounts, and 1.5M active users: https://fediverse.party/en/fediverse/

And I'm one of them... or six of them. Assuming accounts are people will overcount the latter.

There is an active and growing userbase though. The mentality is different than corporate social media; things move slower, including user growth.

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