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Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I think it's going to be more in the other direction. He really hates the bots, so he'll probably close up the API. Until bots gets solved, no developer should expect the API to open up.

Part of his pitch during the acquisition was charging for embeds, so I would not be making any bets on the API loosening up

That would be awesome. Maybe sites will stop using them and take screenshots instead.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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If I was working at Twitter right now I would be looking for a different job, regardless of what I think of Elon's politics/motives. The talk of layoffs and major policy changes creates massive uncertainty and I don't think I'd risk sticking out the transition. I bet many inside the company feel the same. This begs the question: If there is a major exodus, will it even matter? And, if it does, how will the problems m…

I mean, if you're a huge fan of him you'd probably stay. If you're not, you'd probably stay for the severance package, and do absolutely no work in the meantime. No company or recruiter will be holding the fact you were fired against you if/when you're swept away in the layoffs. If you genuinely like your job there and don't feel strongly about Musk either way, that's probably the toughest situation, and you should c…

So everyone who is canned will get a severance package? Not sure where this expectation comes from. Does everyone get an employment contract with a golden parachute these days?

If the layoffs are large all he need do is give 60 days notice to those being terminated.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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OK, so far, not much. Musk is getting stretched rather thin. Space-X seems to be doing OK with Gwynne Shotwell running things. Tesla, which Musk apparently does really run personally, is doing OK, but their side ventures are not. Self-driving is a mess. Solar panels (yes, Tesla has a solar panel business) are not doing well. The Cybertruck is years late. (Maybe next year.[1]) So is the Tesla Model 2, the low-end vehi…

>"Twitter is a distraction."

Or it could be used as a huge influence platform. Guys like Elon might feel that they got to own it. Fishing out my old tinfoil hat ...

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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If I was working at Twitter right now I would be looking for a different job, regardless of what I think of Elon's politics/motives. The talk of layoffs and major policy changes creates massive uncertainty and I don't think I'd risk sticking out the transition. I bet many inside the company feel the same. This begs the question: If there is a major exodus, will it even matter? And, if it does, how will the problems m…

>And, if it does, how will the problems manifest? Reduced reliability? Slower feature velocity? Less innovation?

I got a good laugh out of that. Twitter is easily the worst operating social platform I've used. Still, it will be interesting to observe if there is a slow and steady degradation of their software stack. Everything in the world degrades naturally and needs to be maintained to fight against entropy.

Elon himself once said: "The organizational problems of a company manifest themselves in the product". Knowing that it will be interesting to witness what "organizational problems" we can derive from the product as Elon takes over.

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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He literally said it will not be a free for all. He may be chaotic, but he's not stupid. There is a huge difference between no moderation (anarchy), and not targeting conservative voices solely based on ideology.

I'd love to see some clear examples of conservative voices being targeted solely based on ideology, cause I don't think they exist. The replies so far seem to just confirm my point. Doesn't seem like any of them were banned "solely based on ideology" at all. Come on y'all, show me one example where someone was banned for asking for lower taxes!

The Babylon Bee has been suspended for this tweet.[1] Meghan Murphy was permanently banned for a tweet that simply said, "Men aren't women."[2] The majority of Americans agree with these banned views. In the latest Pew polls, 60% of US adults say that gender is determined by one's sex at birth and cannot be changed.[3] Whether that view is right or not, it's pretty silly to issue bans for saying something that most people believe.

I've seen accounts get banned for replacing "white" with "black" in popular hateful tweets. Apparently only one kind of racism is allowed on Twitter.[4]

If you read Twitter's reasoning for suspending Trump, you'll see it's based on two tweets, neither of which calls for violence.[5] Twitter had to use the excuse that some people might be emboldened to commit violence by his tweets. That's true for almost any politician. But the president of South Africa's Black First Land First party can threaten to kill white people and only get a seven day suspension.[6] Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, still has a Twitter account[7] despite endorsing the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. Rushdie is now blind in one eye and has lost the use of an arm after an assassination attempt in August.

The double standard could not be more obvious.

1. https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1504155537008697352

2. https://web.archive.org/web/20190407204840/https://lawandcri...

3. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/america...

4. https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55863

5. https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio...

6. https://web.archive.org/web/20181216163405/https://citizen.c...

7. https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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That's a very different position than the one he stated before, i.e., everything that is not illegal will be allowed.

He never said that. He said 80% of the political spectrum in the middle would be allowed.

> He never said that

Get it from the horse's mouth:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519036983137509376?lang...

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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They need to re-free up the API. Early adopters and hackers really did some great work using the API until they walled-gardened it and rate limited it to make it unusable. They need to do this for goodwill at the very least, but I think it will spark the fire to make it popular with techies again. Based on the recently published discovery chats we will probably see: * High def video * Focus on music publication * The…

Can they run twitter on starlink sats?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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I always wonder: how much honesty is in him?

For example, he stopped talking about the bot population on the platform altogether after he could not get out of the deal.

Was he honest about this being a big issue in the first place?

For me, it’s not easy to believe this because this bot issue appeared right after Twitter staff did not like his speech, and talks with the CEO fell apart.

Am I mistaken about how it all played out?

If not, do you think being deceitful to a certain degree is okay?

From your point of view, do you consider him deceitful?

Re: Elon Musk owns Twitter: The story so far

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Twitter is also a risk, not just a distraction; now foreign governments can demand access and control in Twitter by holding Tesla revenue hostage (e.g., China's approval or disapproval of Tesla purchase tax exemptions), so he's basically paid a lot of cash to give bad actors additional levers to affect his other businesses.

I don't buy that at all. Twitter has been able to withhold tweets from certain countries (e.g. EU) based on local laws, for many years. They can just keep doing that with China. You can't be held hostage if you just comply with the law and take a bunch of tweets down in China, which every company must do.

> if you just comply with the law and take a bunch of tweets down in China

Note the last qualifier in your statement. "in China". I think the concern is that a potential adversary could influence Musk outside of their jurisdiction too. So "in China" becomes "everywhere". Which means that one day your might find that you're not able to criticize Putin or Xi Jingping or whoever else on Twitter because Musk has a large Tesla presence in that country

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