Liz Truss resigns as UK prime minister

Post by macintux » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 2:19 PM UTC

esotericimpl wrote: post #165

aamoscodes wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it started as the latter, but the ideology kind’ve got away from itself and slowly manifested into reality as voters demanded more and more extreme positions from politicians to consider them “authentic.”

What does the UK and USA have in common? ah right, Australia's greatest export Rupert Murdoch. Right wing media will destroy the western world.

Post by AzzieElbab » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 2:20 PM UTC

cameronh90 wrote: post #245

hairofadog wrote: post #90

I know this topic is important in substance and the thing I'm about to say is an aesthetic issue, but as an American watching this unfold I have admired the Brits for the sense of heart that still seems to be present in their politics. I'm referring to the parliamentary sessions in which, even though they're savagely roasting each other, they're doing in a way that feels somehow good-hearted and doesn't lay bare the…

For all parliament's faults, it's still largely populated by well educated, intelligent individuals who are skilled orators and debaters. Even some of the most awful parliamentarians would easily talk circles around me in any kind of debate. For anyone not aware, a large number of our politicians come from a background at public schools such as Eton, and read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford. Institutions…

Post by wbl » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 2:20 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #288

markvdb wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Her government proposed an unfunded budget that caused a gilt market panic. Part of the mortgage market dried up. Variable mortgage rates exploded. Pension funds had to resort to emergency measures. The Bank of England had to intervene.

I'd love to know why proposing borrowing to cover top-bracket tax rate cuts sends Britain spiraling into crisis but in America that is just how we do.

Post by Der_Einzige » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

cameronh90 wrote: post #245

hairofadog wrote: post #90

I know this topic is important in substance and the thing I'm about to say is an aesthetic issue, but as an American watching this unfold I have admired the Brits for the sense of heart that still seems to be present in their politics. I'm referring to the parliamentary sessions in which, even though they're savagely roasting each other, they're doing in a way that feels somehow good-hearted and doesn't lay bare the…

For all parliament's faults, it's still largely populated by well educated, intelligent individuals who are skilled orators and debaters. Even some of the most awful parliamentarians would easily talk circles around me in any kind of debate. For anyone not aware, a large number of our politicians come from a background at public schools such as Eton, and read Philosophy, Politics and Economics at Oxford. Institutions…

Post by vasco » Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 2:21 PM UTC

xorcist wrote: post #174

akudha wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Britain, Brazil, Australia, Philippines, India, Turkey, U.S … it is mind numbing that of all the good, talented people these countries have, only the dumbest, worst of the worst end up in positions of power. Depressing. At this point, we can just randomly pick a citizen to be President or PM. We might have better chances that way

There is somewhat established, half serious, idea in political science to pick a random citizen instead of a general election, I can't remember the name though. Over time the two systems would converge, and it's much harder to exert undue influence over the candidates when it really could be anybody. It's one of those ideas that's worth taking seriously even if it's never implemented anywhere.