Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Kanye West is buying Parler

theverge.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

341–350 of 939 posts

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#341

Post by MockObject »

OJFord wrote: post #234
tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

It's linked ('unaired segments of the interview') in the submitted article: https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ad77y/kanye-west-tucker-car... Bizarre. In a way, good on them for editing the weirdest stuff out... But really probably shouldn't have used any of it when someone's so clearly in such a bad state? I mean it really is just driving clicks/views/profit from someone's poor health, in a nasty sort of way (i.e. not…

A celebrity says some things that make sense, and some things that don't, and it's nasty profiteering to report on the former? That really seems a bit extreme to me.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#343

Post by volkk »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #334
AlwaysRock wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

> arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time is he ranked that somewhere? if so, i'm definitely getting old and out of touch with pop culture, and i'm from the Chicago area so grew up with everything available on the radio.

seriously? you don't need to be "young" to know this. unless by old you mean 60+. then perhaps i can understand it

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#344

Post by jasonhansel »

IIRC Trump wouldn't join Parler unless it agreed (among other things) to censor his critics. This seems to be a pattern with Trump: he demands that people be more loyal to him personally than to any abstract principle (including free speech absolutism).

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#345

Post by jasonshaev »

mrtksn wrote: post #104
madeofpalk wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Requiring ID verification is adding limitations on who you permit to speak. It is inherently anti 'free speech'. I think it's fine if that's the sort of website you want to build (twitter at the moment is not a free speech maximalist), but don't pretend that doing this doesn't limit speech.

> Requiring ID verification is adding limitations on who you permit to speak Do you mean that in countries where not everyone has government ID? That's not an issue, the government doesn't have to be the authority of ID. Besides, governments can create fake IDs for covert operations anyway. I don't suggest that everyone should connect to the internet with government issued ID card.

How do you verify someone's IRL identity without a government issued ID card in a scalable way?

I don't mean some idea that could work at some arbitrary point in the future (decentralized whatever...). If a social media platform were to do this, right now, how would they do it without verifying a government issued ID?

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#346

Post by P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul »

detaro wrote: post #330
P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Elon Musk being scammed by Twitter? Same situation. Can't a rich dude buy a company without goofy rumors being spread (scammed into buying Parler)? Having a celebrity owner increases the value.

I don't think Kanye West saying that he suffers from bipolar disorder is a rumor.

People with bipolar disorder aren't capable of making rational decisions?

And Elon is just a completely normal guy?

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#347

Post by coinbasetwwa »

bambax wrote: post #333
tptacek wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He believes his kids friends are "professional actors" who were placed there to "sexualize" them, that The Gap knew about the Uvalde shooting before it happened, and that Pete Davidson slept with his wife through the mechinations of an international Jewish conspiracy. You're doing the same thing Fox did: quoting the least unhinged things and pretending the most unhinged things didn't get said. And, as I'm sure will h…

Millions of people believe the Covid vaccine was designed to kill them, or that the Clintons eat fetuses in pizzerias. Millions more are absolutely certain a Jewish secret cabal runs the world. Are they "insane", or just dumb? Kanye West is pushing conspiracies a little further, into the domestic realm. What's upsetting is that when ordinary John Does promote conspiracy theories they are shunned, but when it's a succ…

[flagged]

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#348

Post by insane_dreamer »

bambax wrote: post #271
itake wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time Slim Shady stands up [0]. [0] - https://iamyourtargetdemographic.com/2011/08/30/kanye-west-v...

This article is from 2011, but today on Spotify Eminem still has more monthly listeners than Kanye West (53M vs 51M). Eminem also has several songs that have over a billion streams (one with >1.5b), while Kanye has just one and it's at exactly 1b. So yes, Eminem is still well ahead.

Kanye had tons of collabs as a producer and a huge influence on hip-hop artists to follow. It's not just about streams.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#349

Post by CM30 »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #169
MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When given the choice between platforms, why do you think the majority continues to congregate on the more restrictive ones?

I think the answer here is complicated, but a good portion of it is closely related to 'my friends are here.'

Yeah, it's 'my friends are here' and 'the content I want to read/interact with is here'.

It's the same reason people haven't mass switched to Mastodon or other Fediverse services; because the userbase is so much smaller than the likes of Twitter that there's a good chance the people and content they care about isn't available there. Or why so many competitors to popular services fail in general, regardless of their stance on free speech. The network effect is strong, and sometimes even billions of dollars and tons of marketing can't overcome that (see Google+ for example).

Would people prefer a free speech orientated alternative? Hard to say, for the same reason as whether they'd prefer a decentralised or federated one; it's the content and users that bring people to a site or service, and the competitors to the popular ones are so much smaller and less active it isn't much of a comparison.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

#350

Post by FredPret »

P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #296

Quoted post unavailable.

Criticizing an ethnic group / culture is racist. If you're racist against Jews, that's called anti-Semitism. It's a reliable indicator that someone is a nutcase, either far-right or far-left.

It's even worse than many other forms of bigotry because Jews have been targeted for genocide repeatedly over the centuries, most recently one human lifetime ago, and in an advanced Western nation.

Post reply on HN