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Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Excess death is higher in Europe in general. you can see the stats here: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality What I find strange is the increase in excess death among children since April 2021.

Someone could say that maybe we started giving something to people around that time?

You're right, it's curious how the death rate increased right around the time COVID measures started being lifted all around Europe.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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The Great Barrington Declaration, unfortunately cancelled by mass media and the people in power.

Indeed, the voices of Dr Johnny Bananas and Prof Cominic Dummings deserve to be heard.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/09/herd-immunity-...

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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I'll just say that it's still better than the German system. Same ridiculous waiting times for a 50/50 chance to just get a paracetamol prescription. Private is expensive as hell, nonexistent or not usable. Mental healthcare? Pay us, fuck you. Medication newer than 30 years? Stop huffing that ibuprofen, Bruder. But it's defended to death by the German Internet Chairforce, so it's got that going for it.

Wait a sec — paracetamol requires a prescription in Germany? Even here in the U.S. it's over the counter everywhere.

Honestly - it should be, considering how people are absolutely ignorant about it's potency to kill the liver. Especially because some use it as a hangover painkiller.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Excess death is higher in Europe in general. you can see the stats here: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality What I find strange is the increase in excess death among children since April 2021.

The increase in excess deaths follows an uncharacteristic decrease from the start of the pandemic. I'm not sure how much of it is a real increase rather than the inevitable being postponed by enforcing very strict disease-preventing measures (social distancing, washing hands, shutting down busy places, etc.).

The weekly numbers for the excess in mortality very much suggests that the death rates for 0-14 year olds were significantly lower in the last quarter of 2020, and significantly higher starting in the middle of 2021, when COVID measures were (starting to be) lifted in large parts of Europe.

I hope the cause behind the rise in death toll amongst children isn't the same as that during the Spanish Flu, mainly that the virus mutated to be mild for adults but deadly for children.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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To add to this, there has been evidence that the spike proteins created by the mRNA sequences stay around in the body longer than expected. CDC has now implicitly admitted this. CDC snapshot July 22: https://web.archive.org/web/20220722141942/https://www.cdc.g... CDC snapshot July 23: https://web.archive.org/web/20220723161304/https://www.cdc.g... Notice the change to the "Facts About mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines" section.

This seems like huge news. Why isnt the MSM reporting this?!

Why would they? It just undermines peoples confidence in the institution, with no gain. That's the lens that these kinds of things are looked at through. Better to just quietly alter the messaging.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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The two main causes of excess excess death that Britian is seeing seeing are vascular issues and diabetes. Guess what two of the main long term effects we have seen with Covid are?

Then why is the UK in particular doing so badly with this? A more-likely scenario is that this is the outcome of prioritising Covid (and avoiding Covid) over all other healthcare since March 2020, which has been a relatively unique factor with how our NHS has handled the pandemic.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Note that while this article is listed as being from Yahoo it's actually sourced from The Telegraph, a right-leaning paper that appears to be on a bit of a crusade at the moment to "right the wrongs of lockdowns" or something. That's not to say there isn't a story here, or even that they are wrong; just be aware there appears to be an agenda.

It's fantastic that it's now even acceptable to talk about the downsides of our collective responses to Covid, something we can thank those trailblazers for.

Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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> Are there still major pandemic restrictions in Britain? No. My impression is that in the UK (just as in other countries to a degree) the healthcare system hasn't really gotten out of the overload-state ever since the COVID waves. So while delays due to lockdowns certainly happened, it's also an ongoing crisis independent from that. (and if I'm being cynical, advocating for fixing those issues doesn't fit various pu…

The medical industry still hasn't got out of the covid mindset. Doctors are still working from home. Hospitals are still refusing visitors and requiring a week of self isolation before a patient comes in. Staff are still isolating for two weeks if they test positive. They still haven't put back full seating in waiting rooms and refuse to let you in the hospital if you're 10 minutes early for your appointment. Frankly…

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Re: Silent crisis of soaring excess deaths in Britain is only tip of the iceberg

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Are there still major pandemic restrictions in Britain? Lots of quotes in this piece seem to imply there’s ongoing issues here but everything I see in Europe or the US from abroad seems to heavily imply that people are “back to normal” (at least in terms of movement). The idea here (treatment delays lead to excess deaths) seems ok, but is it really the restrictions? Isn’t it more that hospitals are still extremely fu…

Our healthcare system was in a very big mess before the pandemic. Now it’s in even more of a mess. So it was a case of restrictions tipping it over the edge.

It's bitterly ironic that everything we as the populace sacrificed since March 2020 has been to "Save the NHS".
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