A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

Post by sandworm101 » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 3:39 PM UTC

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7000$ is a pitance. Maybe this case is simple, but many will not be. Say they raid a house and confiscate a hard drive. Encrypted or not, that is going to be a huge thing. Arguments will be made about whether anything incriminating was stored on that drive. Just google the cost of a forensic expert witness. Both sides will need one. Such costs are actually why so many police agencies are backing off of CP investigati…

This is a civil case—not criminal. The father would be suing Google, not the government suing the father for a crime.

Post by Wowfunhappy » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 3:42 PM UTC

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Wow, I'd guess the opposite when we consider the base rate. Seems like a classic Bayesian problem. It's fairly normal for parents to take pictures of their children naked in the bathtub/at the beach/ camping/etc. Conversely, I'd expect actual pedophiles and CSAM producers to be really quite rare. So even a relatively low base-rate of normal parents with normal nude photos would likely dwarf CSAM upon detection. So, i…

If the types of photos you mention were getting flagged as per the case in the article, we would be hearing about a lot more cases. The case itself involved a medical photo, not smiling children at the beach. As such the denominator you use isn’t relevant here. There is a lot of child pornography in image sharing platforms. Facebook, which reports most reliably, had 20 million CSAM reports in 2021, and that’s photos…

Post by retrac » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 3:44 PM UTC

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Maybe not you specificially, but for example in the U.S., there are over three million people with security clearances. That's a large pool for an adversary to choose from. Maybe all an adversary needs for one particular mission is to identify a janitor at a facility, go through some of their content to find a nude selfie that they might be embarrased if their family saw, and the adversary says, it would be a shame i…

> Maybe not you specificially, but for example in the U.S., there are over three million people with security clearances it's private files, not secret state information. things like my address book, SMS (mostly inbound alerts, nobody sends them anymore), WhatsApp backups (which are encrypted) or pictures I took with the phone's camera, nothing compromising.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 3:45 PM UTC

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From my travels, my impression has been that America in particular treats child nudity as completely, unexceptionally obscene, beyond even adult nudity. Compared to a beach in Europe, where nearly half of children under 2 run naked, there seems to be no grey area or minimum acceptability in the US. It makes me wonder if our hypersexualized treatment of child nudity /actively contributes/ to the sexualization of child…

Post by scarface74 » Sun, Aug 21, 2022, 3:51 PM UTC

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My pictures and videos are synced to iCloud, Google Photos, and MS OneDrive. My photos are synced to Amazon Drive too.

That sounds sorta expensive but I get it. I’m at 3tb of photos and videos. It’s becoming unmanageable… anyone aware of an self hosted multi redundancy photo storage that doesn’t involve manual copying of large amounts of files? Or other non time consuming setups that works with iPhones (me and my SO)?