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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by croes »

anthonypasq wrote: post #210
jacquesm wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a similar device on the market right now? A 'bigger version' by two orders of magnitude surface wise certainly seems innovative to me, I'm not aware of another company risking their reputation on something like this at present but I'll be happy to be corrected. There was an intel proof-of-concept but I'm not aware of anything that was actually available to the public. Keep in mind that what looks trivial to…

its 100 times bigger?

That would be an innovation, have never seen a screen that big.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by sovnade »

iasay wrote: post #32
jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

The reason that there is no non-Apple alternatives to the MacBook Pro is because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists. Quality is the feature that apple sell. I don't think anyone else gets near them.

There's plenty of good laptops out there not made by apple. Dell XPS 13 is excellent, asus has several zenbook models that are on par, etc. They don't get much media coverage because the standards we expect from laptops are so high now that we take it for granted (0.75" thick or less, all day battery, insanely high pixel density (enough to require scaling), fast enough cpu/memory for any day to day task, great screen brightness, 512gb-2tb+ nvme ssds, generic charger ports (usb-c), etc. You can get all of that for under $1k from several makers now.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by coconut08 »

michaelsalim wrote: post #327

This is really exciting. Being able to fold will make it so much easier to carry around. My dream is to have a 24 or even a 27 inch monitor that you can fit in an every day backpack. I don't really care that it's also a laptop. Heck, I don't get why you would ever want a foldable phone. But foldable monitor at this size makes a lot of difference in packing. At 17 inch, it's not the biggest difference since you can st…

does this double as a monitor? i might have missed it but it didn't say anything about that.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by fezfight »

I love how these companies advertise Windows 11 Pro as a feature. As if anyone would be surprised or excited for what is effectively the status quo. It'd be like being surprised or excited that it was black.

Its just kinda funny. Now if it was certified to run OSX, Linux, Beos, or Temple OS, or something, now THAT would be a selling point.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by sovnade »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #216
iasay wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason that there is no non-Apple alternatives to the MacBook Pro is because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists. Quality is the feature that apple sell. I don't think anyone else gets near them.

Which is funny because while current 14' and 16' MBPs are very ahead of competition, previous generation was dogshit in terms of quality, and had a lot of this "blue sky innovation" that decreased usability - like the touch bar.

The M1 and M2 (and the benefits from them, like ridiculous battery life, low heat (enough so that you can run it totally fanless unless you're outside in the direct sun or something), and more importantly desktop-comparable speed for even heavy tasks like photo/video editing are really, really good. Honestly unless you're required to run windows, it makes a macbook kind of a no brainer right now, especially if you have other ios devices.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by BoorishBears »

samstave wrote: post #340
crakhamster01 wrote: post #336

Pretty cool tech, but from the Dave2D video, the crease + bulkiness is still bad enough to be a dealbreaker for me (and I imagine many others as well). I find it interesting that companies like Asus, Samsung, etc. frequently put out these devices that feature emerging tech, but clearly aren't ready for primetime. You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect, but Asu…

> "You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect " - Do you recall the original iphone lacked a bunch of really "duh" features at first. The main one being no copy+paste? Sure, Apple has made mistakes... No way to iron out the wrinkles in your foldable OLED screens until you get enough people to try them on first.

You're being way too defensive here.

The iPhone was revolutionary, lacking some software features at launch was nothing that couldn't be fixed.

What the post above clearly means is releasing hardware that's still a few iterations from being "mainstream appealing"

If you actually follow the story of the iPhone, Apple could have released a bulkier more primitive version, but Steve Jobs refused because it wouldn't have mainstream appeal.

And Apple just seems to be more conservative in the feature wars in general. They held out the longest on OLEDs, they held out the longest on 120hz, etc. all until it was practically "boring" tech.

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Post by codethief »

samstave wrote: post #340
crakhamster01 wrote: post #336

Pretty cool tech, but from the Dave2D video, the crease + bulkiness is still bad enough to be a dealbreaker for me (and I imagine many others as well). I find it interesting that companies like Asus, Samsung, etc. frequently put out these devices that feature emerging tech, but clearly aren't ready for primetime. You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect, but Asu…

> "You would never catch Apple releasing something like this since they have brand value to protect " - Do you recall the original iphone lacked a bunch of really "duh" features at first. The main one being no copy+paste? Sure, Apple has made mistakes... No way to iron out the wrinkles in your foldable OLED screens until you get enough people to try them on first.

Not sure I'd want to iron my foldable OLED screen just to get it straight again.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by belter »

nottorp wrote: post #294
belter wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use it with a computer?

How about a console? There's the menu screen with no moving pictures, and I have the habit of leaving games paused for extended periods while i get on with life. That worries me should i get an OLED.

"OLED burn-in: should you be worried about it? And how can you prevent it?" (2021): https://www.whathifi.com/advice/oled-burn-in-should-you-be-w...

"...while technological improvements mean OLED burn in (often called image retention by manufacturers because that sounds less scary) is less likely to hit an OLED TV than it used to be, the actions of the manufacturers themselves prove that the issue hasn’t completely gone away..."

"...It’s pretty obvious from both the messaging of OLED TV manufacturers about screen burn and the extreme lengths they go to to combat it that nobody who buys an OLED TV can yet afford to completely ignore the issue. That said, all the latest evidence suggests that – for most ‘regular’ TV users, at least – the issue is now much less likely to appear than it used to be..."

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Post by caycep »

geraldwhen wrote: post #176
jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

God help your soul if you need to deal with an ASUS hardware RMA. They are easily the worst PC hardware manufacturer of all, and they sell clearly damaged and broken parts as "refurb." They are terrible.

If not Asus, then who?

Asrock - have not had a motherboard go bad...but looking at their website, I'd be wary of trying to get an RMA

Gigabyte/MSI all have their own share of complaints....

eVGA? they have stateside support but sometimes the specs aren't as good as Asrock's.

PNY?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ccbccccbbcccbb »

ccbccccbbcccbb wrote: post #107

Planned obsolescence presented as a feature.

Downvoters must have some skin in the game)

Dislike it or not, no material will endure getting bent 180° at a radius this small many times a day without developing some sort of visible artifacts, let alone with the layer of light-emitting components embedded in it.

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