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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by how_rude »

dylan604 wrote: post #237
xanaxagoras wrote: post #231

I stopped shopping at Amazon when they kicked Parler off of AWS. I don't understand how any self respecting liberal could celebrate a mega corp censoring the internet along idealogical lines, even those who drank the insurrection kool-aid.

This is why you have an issue with Amazon retail? Really? Sure, you can dislike a parent company, but the issues being discussed in TFA and this HN thread is about the shopping experience. Your desire to have a chat about your right wing beliefs have no place here.

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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by ant6n »

mk89 wrote: post #114
ant6n wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem I’m having in Germany ist that only Amazon reliable delivers to my door, usually next day. Every other store ships with DHL, which after several days pretends that they ring you, when they don’t, and then u can go pick it up at the DHL store a day later. That’s their moat.

Weird, DHL is for me the best and most professional of all. The experience you mentioned happens to me with DPD and very often with GLS. Hermes is also pretty good and professional. Maybe it depends on the location...

Maybe it does depend on the location, maybe you're lucky. But the complains process with DHL is impossible, so if you have bad delivery ppl in your area (in my case downtown Berlin), there's nothing you can do.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by ranger_danger »

eslaught wrote: post #110

Is it correct to say that when you get something "shipped and sold by Amazon.com", it really comes from them? It's the "fulfilled by Amazon" (the infamous FBA) that you need to watch out for. It's a bit screwy, but you can filter by seller by clicking into a specific product category, and then selecting Amazon.com in the bar on the left. Then all the items should be "shipped and sold by Amazon.com". But I've been sor…

Recently I bought a hard drive that was "shipped and sold by amazon" and it was not only completely DOA, but the serial number was fake. It did not verify using the manufacturer's lookup page. It had also arrived practically loose inside a way-too-large box with almost no padding inside.

I returned that and simultaneously ordered the exact same item again from the same page, still "shipped and sold by amazon", and this time the properly packaged product arrived, with a valid serial number, and it worked just fine.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by TMWNN »

honkdaddy wrote: post #273
derefr wrote: post #126

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But why are so many of these pseudo-brands exactly 1. six characters long, 2. all caps, and have 3. point-form descriptions that 4. use some particular emoji as bullet-point symbols, and 5. give each point a separate, usually-capitalized "title" part, 6. enclosed in either square brackets or the even-more-niche punctuation【 】? To me, that reads either like these all being marques of one company; or there being some C…

>"start a turn-key Amazon business" From the very limited research I've done, it is something relatively similar to this. There's a market in China of selling e-books which teach you various ways to make money on the English-speaking web without having to know much English yourself. I mean it makes sense, if you go to BlackHatWorld or HackForums there are loads of people selling guides teaching you to do similar stuf…

>From the very limited research I've done, it is something relatively similar to this. There's a market in China of selling e-books which teach you various ways to make money on the English-speaking web without having to know much English yourself.

From what I've seen on the Amazon Seller forums, Turkey and Pakistan are two other such countries.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by 107208579 »

derefr wrote: post #126
callahad wrote: post #20

The New York Times did some decent reporting into the pseudo-brands which comes closer to answering the question in the title: having a registered trademark unlocks a lot of on-platform seller tools (predictive analytics, early review program, etc.), and the easiest path to a trademark is to have an utterly unique, nonsense name. Some Chinese municipalities were also offering cash incentives for citizens who obtained…

But why are so many of these pseudo-brands exactly 1. six characters long, 2. all caps, and have 3. point-form descriptions that 4. use some particular emoji as bullet-point symbols, and 5. give each point a separate, usually-capitalized "title" part, 6. enclosed in either square brackets or the even-more-niche punctuation【 】? To me, that reads either like these all being marques of one company; or there being some C…

Square brackets【 】are a requirement for company/brand names when it comes to SMS communication in China:

https://support.huaweicloud.com/intl/en-us/msgsms_faq/sms_fa...

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by pishpash »

derefr wrote: post #179
thirtyseven wrote: post #167

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What’s hard to believe about several thousand sellers all copying each other’s homework?

Because it's not just the big things that are the same; it's the little points of style that a "marketplace of ideas" wouldn't think to share or copy. You'd expect, if you allowed someone to study your notes before a test, that they'd possibly end up using similar turns-of-phrase to yours on the test. You wouldn't expect that they'd end up learning to perfectly duplicate your handwriting. It'd both be too hard, and n…

This must be something that materializes out of the seller interaction with Amazon, because the same aesthetic does not appear on eBay, or for that matter Aliexpress.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by pishpash »

gerdesj wrote: post #292
alangibson wrote: post #108

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I've listed a few things on Amazon. This is very much true. If you don't have a registered trademark youre a second class citizen. You can't upload a video, for example.

Amazon isn't eBay. In theory, for us punters: we should be flogged goods by Amazon that conform to local standards. Beyond that all bets are off. eBay doesn't even bother with ... anything - it's all caveat emptor. So even in the wild west of Amazon at least there are a few standards. Sorry if you feel aggrieved but I'd rather buy stuff that had to follow a few standards that I nominally trust. By registering a trade…

That's the problem: Amazon gives the false sense of brand identity and quality, forcing these problems, whereas eBay is transparently honest. The latter approach is simply better.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by kevinmchugh »

stuff4ben wrote: post #57

Imagine if Amazon dedicated some human effort and time to curate their catalog and reviews instead of their legion of engineers trying to automate the solution and continually failing. Hire a bunch of college interns every semester and they'd have this problem solved. EDIT: I actually forgot they have this already in Amazon Mechanical Turk!

The interns would be even easier to bribe

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Post by pishpash »

0xfeba wrote: post #184
samstave wrote: post #107

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There was an amazing radio piece a while back about an outfit in NYC of a guy who had a very lucrative Aamazon copy-cat service: it was run by a family of Hassidic(sp?) Jews in (brooklyn?) -- and what they did was have a bunch of them scour Amazon for top rated items - then have their connections do quick knock-off and sell them. it was a fascinating story... Ill see if I can find it. They were on the early side of t…

Amazon itself does that with "Amazon's Choice" brand or whatever. They use the stats of top selling items, clone it for cheap, and take all the sales. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/amazon-i...

So once again, we see that institutional behavior seeps into every aspect of a "society", so Amazon only has itself to blame.
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