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Webb's primary camera is infrared, so there is by necessity a choice to be made with how to present the data for humans who can't see in infrared.
I had always assumed they were doing it completely mathematically though. Like collating spectrometry readings to know what elements were present where and figuring out the temperature for blackbody emission or something, or even just linearly transforming the raw data from the spectrum the telescope can receive to the visible spectrum. Kinda disappointing if it's really just a paint by numbers Photoshop to look nice
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It's the wrong question to ask because a 'human observer' would see absolutely nothing. The age of the objects you are looking at is such that you are looking into the past not at something the is still there in the present, so if we were to transport you there you would not recognize the various objects in visible light at all, too much time has passed. At this level 'distance' = 'time'.
This isn't true at all, many of the objects are not far away. The Carina Nebula (imaged) is 7,500 light years away. It is still there. It seems like people are going through mental gymnastics to avoid answering the question. If someone asked what a famous black and white photo like raising the flag would look like in person, would people give the same nonsense answers? e.g. "There is no "in real life", "the past cant…
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The difference is in a) the details and b) the length of time the telescope has to gather light to get the photo. JWST got the photo in hours when Hubble took weeks, and there's easily 10x as many objects in the JWST shot. JWST can thus observe much fainter and much more distant objects - galaxies billions of years old, exoplanets, etc., and it can do more of it .
Of course, I get it, but we are allowed to admit that to the average person so far it looks like more of the same.
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Does anyone have a simulated image of what it would look like in visible light without red shifting? i.e. If we were moving at the same velocity of the Nebula looking with our own eyes. i.e. What it would look like "in real life if I actually went there"
These objects are much too faint to see much of anything with human eyes. We can see them in astrophotography because the exposures are hours long (or weeks even, sometimes), and because telescopes gather more light than the eye per unit time, as well. This is why these nebulae look like billowing clouds - they are huge (light years across), so some light is absorbed as it crosses them, and some of the infrared light…
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The image details do have the dimensions listed in a standard measure down under the "Fast Facts" section; I assume this will be included for every image release. The deep field image says it's about 2.4 arcmin across[1], Stephan's Quintet image is about 7.4 arcmin across[2], etc. [1] https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/035/01G... [2] https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/034/01G...
I know that's usually there. I'd just love to see a little map scale bar or something in EXIF. [-----------] ° [--------] ' [----------------------] " [----------------] ,," Super easy.
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#347Watching the livestream i was more than surprised, that color correction actually happens in Photoshop. Also, there seem to be multiple layer-masks involved for specific regions and objects. I get that you can shift and composite color, based on hue, apply filters etc, but: Photoshop? Curious if anyone can explain, that what we see is actual science or some touched up version of objects in our universe. p.s.: What st…
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Thanks for posting these links! It was frustrating that the main NASA PR pages linked photos that were 1280x720. I guess that's to protect their bandwidth costs since much of the general public is probably viewing on mobile anyway and higher res would not only be slower but wasted bits. I just wish NASA had provided a link at the bottom of their low-res image pages to intermediate sized images (~4k) for desktop viewi…
Mobile is actually a great platform to get Hugh resolution, since you can zoom in really easily and navigate the full image. However, after spending 10 minutes on mobile this morning, I was unable to find any high resolution images, and many images had that anti-pattern of a BS HTML gallery that severely restricts interacting with the image.
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Ok to be honest I know it's not cool to admit it, but so far it all looks the same. If someone told me that the Webb picture was taken by Hubble I would not have thought about it for an extra second. I'm hoping that in the future we see pictures of locations and environments that are mind-blowing to the average person who loves space.
The difference is in a) the details and b) the length of time the telescope has to gather light to get the photo. JWST got the photo in hours when Hubble took weeks, and there's easily 10x as many objects in the JWST shot. JWST can thus observe much fainter and much more distant objects - galaxies billions of years old, exoplanets, etc., and it can do more of it .
For this image, Hubble only had 1.7 hours of exposure while JWST had 12.5 hours.
More details: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32074989