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Re: Apple Unveils M2

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Post by ShadonototraCD »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #199
Shadonototra wrote: post #54

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x86 is dead, full of security issues and is energy-intensive smartphones, even embedded devices, including cars nowadays are all on ARM, servers are building momentum too, not because it is shiny, but because of tangible gains on many aspects > Apple is willing to force its partners and customers to make the switch or get left behind. That's not true at all, the chip doesn't matter when you sell software, hardware an…

>That's what Microsoft fanboy don't understand Maybe if you stop accusing people of being fanboys, discussions could be more productive. In fact, your entire post is all trolling, FUD, and no substance or arguments.

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Post by skavi »

paulmd wrote: post #116
skavi wrote: post #83

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Have they confirmed anything about power?

From the presentation, taken from Anandtech's liveblog: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/17429/34312453.jpg Same power budget.

Ah, completely missed that slide. Thanks!

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Post by gameswithgo »

duped wrote: post #327
freedomben wrote: post #273

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I really think that's what the Framework will be in a couple of years. I use one now and it's pretty great, but does have a few (totally acceptable to me) rough edges that they're working on.

As a framework owner, there's maybe two orders of magnitude difference in build quality between a mac and a framework. The track pad and display suck for a laptop in 2022. The display has issues with calibration and resolution (understandable from where they're at right now, but still it's trash compared to an XPS or MB). The trackpad has mechanical issues that cause it to wiggle, its been reported on the forum (and…

This depends on what one thinks of as build quality. If it is a certain way things look and feels that evoke emotions of quality and power, then yes, Apple's build quality is better.

But if you appreciate that things are engineered in a way to make repair-ability and upgrade-ability easy to make your life better and have less hassle, perhaps the Framework has better build quality.

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Post by turtlebits »

pier25 wrote: post #300
paulmd wrote: post #164

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The price increases are a kick in the shins though. 20% more for 18% more performance. The M1 generation looks to be a bit of an "introductory offer" to get people looking at apple who otherwise wouldn't have... once they have established their mindshare as being a performance leader worth considering over x86, they can raise prices back up.

I agree. The Air used to be the laptop for everyone. Now it has entered into MBP territory in terms of pricing and performance. What will happen with the M3? Will the base Air start at $1500? Will the M2 Air drop its price to $999 when the M3 is released? I'm not saying the M2 Air is not worth its price compared to x86 laptops, but it's ridiculous that the cheapest Apple laptop is way overkill for its intended audien…

The original Macbook Air when introduced had an MSRP of $1800.

They are still selling the M1 Air at $1000.

Re: Apple Unveils M2

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Post by top_sigrid »

cloudengineer94 wrote: post #48

Still only supports one display. Also they increased the prices across the board.. Quite happy with my M1 Pro, a beat and a hell of a purchase.

This is disappointing. It has 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports but can only drive one external display. So unnecessary, this would be the perfect machine for my home and work setup, but I have 2 external displays in both cases.

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Post by WithinReason »

kube-system wrote: post #337
WithinReason wrote: post #148

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I've long wished that Microsoft would port Windows on ARM to the Raspberry Pi!

Isn't there Windows IoT Core? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=533...

Which is different from Windows on ARM

Re: Apple Unveils M2

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Post by jrochkind1 »

culopatin wrote: post #338
jrochkind1 wrote: post #208

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Actually, I just realized the new Air has a magsafe power connector and two additional USB-Cs, and does not have a touchbar. I was about to buy a 14" M1 Pro, not because I needed the speed at all, but I wanted magsafe, I didn't want a touchbar, and two USB-C ports (inclusive of power supply) is not enough. Also the built in HDMI out was nice. The new Air has everything I want except the HDMI. Separate magsafe power P…

Keep in mind that the air with the ram and storage of the 14 gets pretty close in price.

I guess, depending on what you mean by "pretty close".

M2 MacBook Air 13" with 8-core GPU (10-core would be $80 more)

* 16GB RAM, 512GB storage: $1599

* 16GB RAM, 1TB storage: $1799

M1 14" MacBook Pro with 14-core GPU

* 16GB RAM, 512GB storage: $1999

* 16GB RAM, 1TB storage: $2199

So $400 cheaper, ~20%

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Post by skavi »

clintonwoo wrote: post #258

Ouch, that MacBook Pro 13" chassis makes me hurt. The air actually has a better body, that's disappointing. The display size, magsafe and function keys are all better on Air but it doesn't have a fan for sustained performance :'(

As far as I can tell, there is almost no reason for the 13” MBP to exist.

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Post by rolisz »

mathstuf wrote: post #172
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #52

All i want is a laptop with similar build quality, battery life, and Ubuntu.

I like the XPS 13 line myself. The 93xx line lasted all night when I forgot to shut the lid one evening (9+ hours) with Fedora (after running `powertop` and doing its tweaks). But I'm also a "weirdo" who doesn't like Apple-made hardware (the trackpad, touchbar, keyboard, mouse, etc. are all inferior IMO), so maybe you're looking for something different there.

My XPS 13 9360 randomly turns on when the lid is closed and burns through the battery. There was an official document at some point saying that if you put it in your backpack in sleep mode, it voids the warranty.

I really like the laptop otherwise, but battery/power management is utter crap on it, both on Windows and on Linux.

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