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Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by kibwen »

q-big wrote: post #327
hervature wrote: post #76

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I feel compelled to say that your second sentence is probably the funniest thing I've ever read on HN. It resonates very strongly with my belief that VR/Metaverse will continue to under deliver. What people want is an escape from reality. "Just like" Ready Player One or anything from a wide choice of science fiction novels. The problem is that these systems require a fundamental disconnect from reality. Not only do w…

> It resonates very strongly with my belief that VR/Metaverse will continue to under deliver. Just offer VR porn applications, and a lot of people will urge to get a VR headset and a decent computer to support it. For a lot of kinds of media, porn was the killer application.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

haunter wrote: post #118
hervature wrote: post #76

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I feel compelled to say that your second sentence is probably the funniest thing I've ever read on HN. It resonates very strongly with my belief that VR/Metaverse will continue to under deliver. What people want is an escape from reality. "Just like" Ready Player One or anything from a wide choice of science fiction novels. The problem is that these systems require a fundamental disconnect from reality. Not only do w…

>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…

> I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse.

I think it's ads.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by seydor »

hownottowrite wrote: post #307
vineyardmike wrote: post #291

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> She literally rode this generation of SV wave from the beginning. > she was the best thing to happen to FB and Mark Zuckerberg. Or -hear me out- the person most influential in current SV business is not the best thing to happen to a (very young, impressionable) founder trying to grow his business. Pre-Sheryl ads were businesses having fb pages and advertising when your friend bought a product (very social-based). P…

Which version actually worked?

both. Otherwise, was there an overall increase in consumption?

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by quickthrower2 »

sealthedeal wrote: post #5

Today, I am sharing the news that after 14 years, I will be leaving Meta. When I first met Mark, I was not really looking for a new job – and I could have never predicted how meeting him would change my life. We were at a holiday party at Daniel L Rosensweig's house. I was introduced to Mark as I walked in the door, and we started talking about his vision for Facebook. I had tried The Facebook, as it was first called…

I am not sure what to make of this wall. Is it copypasta?

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Post by zmmmmm »

clpm4j wrote: post #219
closedloop129 wrote: post #186

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VR only underdelivers when compared to full emergence. You don't need a television when you have a VR headset. I think that Meta's headsets will be the the consoles for the next generation because TV sets are not a given anymore. So a console becomes more expensive because you have to also buy a television.

I have to say, that based on my family and friends who I occasionally watch TV shows and movies with, I'm the only person who is able to focus on the TV screen without my phone in sight. Everyone else I know is constantly half-listening, half-watching, while simultaneously browsing IG, Zillow, YT, TikTok, etc. I think our very real phone addictions are going to play an adverse role in VR adoption until the VR app spa…

I don't think it'll be particularly hard to mirror your phone screen into your virtual space. Closely similar things are already done in a bunch of apps.

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Post by colinmhayes »

gowld wrote: post #295
bcrosby95 wrote: post #226

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From what I can tell, metaverse is just an attempt to make MMOs for "normal" people. So instead of a few million people spending 6+ hours per day in your "game", you have a few billion people spending 6+ hours per day in your "game".

So, Second Life?

but for normal people

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by paganel »

frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

Not to mention that the metaverse "universe" looks, for lack of a better word, kind of shitty. I mean all those billions of dollars (or maybe more) invested to get something that looks like this [1]? Or like this [2]?

Not since Google+ have I seen so much hybris when it comes to one of the big SV companies, but at least back then Google didn't bet the entire company on Google+ succeeding or not the same way as Facebook (ok, Meta) seems to be doing right now with the metaverse (yes, I know about the "all small arrows behind one big arrow" or something like that speech that came from Page but it turned out not even the Google higher-ups believed in their prep-talks).

[1] https://media.wired.com/photos/61bd32b4b540f6bc340c4449/mast...

[2] https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2022/02/15/screenshot-11-1_...

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Post by morelisp »

zenmaster10665 wrote: post #301
hnthrowaway0328 wrote: post #271

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One thing I don't get is why there is a such high regard of visual input. I mean, we can speak to our friends since the telephone age, and we can see them on screen too since maybe the 90s. Is there a huge demand to actually see them IN THE SAME ROOM ? I really don't think so. But maybe future generations have different ideas. I think VR can make a lot of difference in training (e.g. medical training) but it's not co…

Isn't this the same argument as 'we have telephones. Why do we ever need to see the people on screens, isn't voice enough?' Feeling truly present with someone isn't possible in 2d

Lots of communication was more effective with voice calls than video calls.

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Post by jbullock35 »

graycat wrote: post #264
stareatgoats wrote: post #199

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The time for an online people-directory was ripe. There can only be one such (for normal people), and Facebook made some fortuitous strategic decisions early on (minimize ads, real name policy, target university students, and more). Once Facebook achieved critical mass then they just had to avoid silly mistakes in order to succeed.

Why early on was Facebook so much more promising than MySpace?

And what made it more promising than Friendster?

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Post by JKCalhoun »

bambax wrote: post #251
atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

> I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there I've not read anything (else?) Mrs Sandberg has (or hasn't) written, but this turn of phrase has a "professional" feel & taste. It's contrived. It's not something you would say about someone truly dear to you, your best friend, your parents, etc. Maybe your dog.

Or the guy on your couch?
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