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Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by doctorwho42 » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:36 PM UTC

Auracle wrote: post #229

throwaway821909 wrote: post #124

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Mine "taught me" by handing over a cheap electric shaver and basically saying "you can't go wrong"... I think you can change the blades but he never did, so neither do I, just wait for the entire thing to break or get lost. So all the debate around what's cheapest or most manly has always somewhat confused me.

How well they work really depends on your beard hair. I get a pretty coarse, thick beard and quickly discovered electric shavers were a no-go for me.

I have thick and coarse beard hair, and when it gets a little bit long it starts to curl in on itself.

I still use electric. But the trick is to buy a beard trimmer. Trim beard with that, gets you to pretty short stubble, then you use electric shaver to go clean shaven if you want. I actually have found stubble to short beard to be ideal spot for me.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by electric_mayhem » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:36 PM UTC

algoatecorn wrote: post #278

gruez wrote: post #158

>Other examples of products that seem to exhibit a similar trend, where purported convenience leads to higher prices >Cooking equipment: essentially indestructible Cast Iron skillets transition into teflon pans. The newer pans perform worse, and must be replaced on a shockingly regular basis. They also seem to be poisonous. They have their uses. I wouldn't try frying eggs in a cast iron, for instance (technically you…

My wife and I got rid of our TV last year when we moved. It was a nice break, but we want at least one in the house, so we're currently shopping around for a nice 4K 70+ inch. I've come to realize the market is headed toward a TV without any ports. You'll plug it in and immediately prompted to link with wifi so you can log into your streaming services. Fuck that. I'm hell-bent on getting something with zero smart fun…

You can get any tv you like -as long as it has HDMI ports- and your choice of a TiVo, appletv, etc.

My last two tvs had smart crap built in; I never set any of ot up, not even as far as connecting to wifi.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by algoatecorn » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

sagaro wrote: post #309

algoatecorn wrote: post #278

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My wife and I got rid of our TV last year when we moved. It was a nice break, but we want at least one in the house, so we're currently shopping around for a nice 4K 70+ inch. I've come to realize the market is headed toward a TV without any ports. You'll plug it in and immediately prompted to link with wifi so you can log into your streaming services. Fuck that. I'm hell-bent on getting something with zero smart fun…

you could always cast something to the TV from your computer or phone with no ads.

My worry is that TV manufacturers will have the capacity to overlay ads natively on the screen.

Re: Shaving is an example of how consumer products extract more money

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Post by gruez » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

hedora wrote: post #300

bluedino wrote: post #287

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Overheated Teflon. Not egg cooking temps

At regular cooking temps, the chemicals still leach into the food. Also, you should throw a teflon pan out if it has a single scratch, since it leaches much more rapidly after that.

>At regular cooking temps, the chemicals still leach into the food

Source?

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Post by jlund-molfese » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

hprotagonist wrote: post #10

It is, however, hard to find these sorts of razors. If you go into a shop to buy a razor, you will almost certainly not be able to buy one - but you will be faced with a wide range of very similar cartridge razors. The double edged razor has become a product that you can only buy on the internet, and which you will only buy if you know that it exists. This was true -- in about 2010. My local CVS has three or four DE…

In the US, these days even Walmart has them[1] in stores I've been to. This particular product isn't necessarily a great deal, but just by virtue of being on the shelves, people are exposed to the idea of using a safety razor.

[1] https://www.walmart.com/ip/van-der-Hagen-Stainless-Steel-Dou...

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Post by smoyer » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:38 PM UTC

hindsightbias wrote: post #275

gruez wrote: post #158

>Other examples of products that seem to exhibit a similar trend, where purported convenience leads to higher prices >Cooking equipment: essentially indestructible Cast Iron skillets transition into teflon pans. The newer pans perform worse, and must be replaced on a shockingly regular basis. They also seem to be poisonous. They have their uses. I wouldn't try frying eggs in a cast iron, for instance (technically you…

There is only one conspiracy theory I believe in, it’s /reddit/r/castiron is a troll site created to make people believe ‘seasoning’ is really a thing. After spending a few weeks trying, I’ve had multiple people tell me they got theirs ‘seasoned’ after three or four months. Don’t let yourself be sucked in.

I cook the family breakfast on a cast iron skillet every Dadurday. I like the taste of butter with eggs and use about a 1/2 teaspoon per pan full. It's about the same for pancakes if there's oil in the batter. My best advice is to never wash the pan ...just wipe it down with a paper towel.

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:38 PM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #231

caymanjim wrote: post #205

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> I wouldn't try frying eggs in a cast iron, for instance (technically you can, but it requires an absurd amount of oil). You need to learn how to season and care for cast iron. It doesn't take an absurd amount of oil, and the egg should slide out with ease.

>> season and care for cast iron So they need more work and skill than other pans. In other words: they are in fact less convenient . Cast iron also has multiple issues when used with induction ranges, which are by far the most efficient/environmental cookers.

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Post by diogenescynic » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:38 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #303

diogenescynic wrote: post #204

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>They have their uses. I wouldn't try frying eggs in a cast iron, for instance (technically you can, but it requires an absurd amount of oil). Also, claiming that they "seem to be poisonous" without any qualifiers is a little misleading. To my knowledge they're only poisonous during manufacturing (ie. the precursor chemicals) and when they get too hot. Nonstick pans contain hormone disrupting chemicals. Just google i…

>Nonstick pans contain hormone disrupting chemicals Again, is this during manufacture or in the finished product? In my comment I specifically said it was poisonous during manufacture. >Just google it and there are numerous resources I checked on wikipedia and I found no mentions of that in the finished product .

>I checked on wikipedia and I found no mentions of that in the finished product.

It's both/ Read the article I linked above "most people in the U.S. have PFAS in their bloodstream" so these chemicals are toxic in the finished product (which they then digest when using) and during manufacture.

>While contamination of drinking water around military bases and factories gets most of the attention, the EPA says 80 percent of human exposure comes from consumer products in the home.

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Post by lobocinza » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:38 PM UTC

dghughes wrote: post #132

motohagiography wrote: post #11

I've used a straight razor for almost 20 years. Vindicating to read that the price of a Dovo pays for itself. I think my bar of shaving soap is probably the better part of decade old as well. In the interim, a whole peculiar subculture around shaving has developed, but you don't have to be a part of it to just use a razor. Makes you unreachable by corporate marketing as well, which is itself its own reward.

I have a straight razor it's almost a lost art using one. I tried one but I figured I'd end up killing myself by accident. Plus I don't have to patience to sharpen and strop the blade. A safety razor is also a great investment and cheap. I bought a Wilkinson Sword handle $20 and a pack of five blades $5. It's an old name-brand sold practically everywhere. I can get more than a month out of one double-sided blade. Plu…

You can use a straight razor with replaceable blades (the same blades used on a safety razor).

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Post by epistasis » Sat, May 07, 2022, 3:39 PM UTC

oblak wrote: post #295

epistasis wrote: post #215

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It's far far creepier to be overly concerned about plastic waste than about the gasoline cars on the road. Plastic waste has almost zero impact, zero, compared to the gasoline, brake dust, and tire microplastics coming off of cars. Where do all the microplastics in bodies of water come from? It's not plastic waste in landfills, it's tires on the road, which wear down and wash into bodies of water. Every single time y…

I didn't want to get in an argument with with you because you seem to presume A LOT. So much "we" and "people" in your posts. This is one of the reasons your take frustrated me as much as it did. Mid 20s, still high on hormons? The way you argue is pointing out things that you do, and applying said behaviours to everyone else, or at least the the people on this site. Again, very frustrating. I, for one, do not drive…

Environmental protection is not something that's solved by personal choice, it's solved by changing our system to a circular economy. Perhaps individual choice can pioneer new ways to live, and demonstrate that other lifestyles are possible that are just as fulfilling and convenient as more environmentally damaging ones. But in the end, environmental protection is a "we" and "people" problem not a "me" or "I" problem.

I did not make the post you were responding to. So asking me to take responsibility, accusing me of being young and full of hormones, is yet more of a shit post in your part.

I tend to find that in my (many more than 20) years on this planet that when responding to someone, the utmost important thing to speak the truth, and secondly to respond in kind in order to be most likely to understood by the person you are talking to. So if you apologize for your post, I too apologize for responding in kind.