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Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by officeplant »

goosedragons wrote: post #104
nextos wrote: post #50

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Call me crazy, but I think there is room for a third platform. Especially if this platform was bootstrapped in a smart way, for example with an emulation layer to be able to run applications from Android. Or perhaps WebAssembly will make it viable to do more things from a (mobile) browser. I really miss the N700-N9 series with Maemo and Meego. It was so elegant and simple.

There doesn't seem to be. Hell BB10 was basically what you describe and IIRC had a layer to let let devs submit Android apps into the Blackberry World from day one. It wasn't enough and devs couldn't even be bothered to do that. Later they partnered with Amazon and added the Amazon App Store and let users add their own Android apps. Still wasn't enough. It was a great phone OS and hands down was the best at email/mes…

Blackberry's android application sideloading made it one hell of a killer smartphone. I had a Q5 as a work phone for a while and it was great to still have so many apps I was used to from android. The killing blow was everything moving to needing play services just to function.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by dopa42365 »

jmrm wrote: post #123

Today we can buy a really good (and small) iPhone from $430 with the same powerful SoC than the bigger ones and more years of updates, so more future-proof than a similar price Android phone. For markets outside the more expensive parts of the US, this is a big deal, because in a country where the monthly income excluding taxes is between $1500 and $2500 (like most of the UE countries), paying $1000 or more in a phon…

$430 is an insane amount to pay for a phone if you aren't in the global top 5% or so (which most people reading HN are, but it's not very representative).

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Post by bitwize »

postalrat wrote: post #203
naoqj wrote: post #71

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Even the Pixel software just feels like a knock-off of iOS. Same UI paradigms, gestures, etc but everything feels cheaper.

They are both copying each other.

But when Apple copies your feature, your feature gets better. When you copy Apple's feature, it feels like a cheap knockoff.

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by marcosdumay »

vidanay wrote: post #244
marcosdumay wrote: post #237

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Well, I don't really know the iOS system, but Android lets you authorize (or block) each different interface of notifications (like text, sounds, or appearing at the top) for each different application, and you can do that right from the notification itself. I imagine this is what the GP is talking about.

I think you replied to the wrong comment? I am quite familiar with the power of the Android notification system. iOS notifications pale in comparison.

That's strange. I replied to a reply of your comment, but it's not there anymore.

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Post by sofixa »

hypothesis wrote: post #335
WithinReason wrote: post #303

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NFC payments?

That’s fair. Although I personally don’t need that tied to my phone. Maybe it could be substituted with contactless cards?

The advantage of phone NFC payments is that there's no limit, unlike with a card which is usually capped rather low (50/100€ here in France).

Re: Android loses 8% of its global OS market share in five years

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

freedomben wrote: post #89
vmception wrote: post #33

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> The impression I get is that every iPhone user has heard all the arguments before and understand the accuracy of those arguments and its the android users that lack the self awareness in that area and other areas of their life, This might be the most ironic comment I've read in a long time. 90%+ of users on both platforms are purely religious about their choice, and if there's one thing I can say that most of them…

FWIW that underhanded description of Apple users as idiots who value looks and brand names and can't be trusted with a real computer is... annoyingly old.

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Post by SapporoChris »

technothrasher wrote: post #270
tomtheelder wrote: post #85

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I switched recently, and honestly have found the experience on iPhone to broadly be worse. There are a few things that are a bit nicer, but the downgrade in the notifications system alone just tanks the experience. That said I switched for mostly privacy reasons, so won't be going back.

I switched recently from years of Android usage simply because the car I wanted to buy only supported CarPlay. I could either give up Android or give up the car. I chose to keep the car. Now that I’ve had the iPhone a while, there seem to be about the same number of annoyances in iOS as there were with Android, they’re just different. I think I’d give the edge to Android, iOS is slightly more annoying, but not enough…

Do I understand correctly that your car determined your smartphone choice? Furthermore you considered changing your vehicle selection based on your current smartphone?

I find the concept of a smartphone affecting a transportation decision or the reverse to be highly unusual.

Can you please explain your rational? For example, do you spend excessive amount of time in your car? Do you do specific tasks from your car that require a specific connection between car and smartphone?

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Post by rejectfinite »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #160
drdec wrote: post #137

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Exactly. I was recently talking to a guy who had had his iPhone stolen. But it was no big deal - he had replacement insurance and the deductible was only $200. Which is more than I have ever paid for a phone in my life.

I use an iPhone but I was surprised the OP mentioned price as a reason to switch.

I buy unlocked.

I would rather have a 10/month phone bill than a 40-50 one.

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Post by rtpg »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #127
CameronNemo wrote: post #60

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Performance, battery life, dependence on Google, inconsistent UIs from different manufacturers, bloatware from networks, networks control updates, most phones don't even get much in the way of updates.

What are you doing on your phone where performance matters, or what Android phone are you comparing to a relatively new iPhone? I have a 2 year old mid-level Android and have had 0 performance issues or crashes (aside from Android Auto).

Just using Google maps was super slow on my flagship galaxy phone compared to an iPhone SE.

Or rather, stuttering was the bigger problem in those cases. I’m sure the geek scores were similiar in raw performance

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Post by throwawayboise »

kd913 wrote: post #180
guitarbill wrote: post #134

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Windows Phone was a shame, but completely Microsoft's fault. I liked the Windows Phone UI/UX, and the irony is that if they had've invested more into something like Xamarin, they could've likely had extremely compelling tooling for big enterprises (like banks) to support Apps on different platforms. But even Skype for Windows Phone took ages to actually land. Or emulate Android apps, like you said. That solves the in…

I loved my lumia 520. It was cheap as chips, fast as hell and at the time more user friendly than whatever overheating droid alternatives were available. I think it was one of the fastest selling phones at the time. I distinctly remember Google making it a right pain to use Google's products on the phone, namely Youtube and Google Maps. In addition I remember a bunch of articles talking about how Google prevented Mic…

I never owned a Lumia phone but everyone I knew who did have one loved it.

It was on my short list for my next phone at one point, but the platform imploded before that happened.

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