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What does “shitty job” mean in the low-skill, low-pay world?

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Re: What does “shitty job” mean in the low-skill, low-pay world?

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> Pediatric oncology. ... Or criminal defense attorneys/prosecutors. Not detracting from the point but, in either case, this person is not going to be on the breadline as a consequence of quitting his/her job. They will get a similalrly high paying and high prestige job the next day.

What high paying jobs do doctors get that aren in medicine?

There are a lot of jobs in medicine that aren't pediatric oncology.

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You just described my first 5 years out of college until I went back to school. You take that "temporary" job to pay the bills, and then you never get that entry level position to break into your industry after your degree and you're SOL and going back to school in the hopes that a master's degree and project portfolio will help you get an entry level position or internship which will translate into finally being abl…

Then you graduate again in december of 2019 and you lose another 2 years to whims of fate.

Don't get a degree in the arts then? What other industry needs a master's degree and a project portfolio to become unemployed or making $40k in an expensive city?

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>> A meatgrinder job is a job that pays more not because there are fewer people who can do it, but because there are fewer people that will. They have insanely high turnover, because some aspect of the job is so bad that the vast majority of people who try it don’t stay. Maybe it’s long hours that never stop or maybe it’s constant on-call work. Maybe it’s an insane, stress-intensive workload you can’t begin to keep u…

> Pediatric oncology. ... Or criminal defense attorneys/prosecutors. Not detracting from the point but, in either case, this person is not going to be on the breadline as a consequence of quitting his/her job. They will get a similalrly high paying and high prestige job the next day.

Aren't legal jobs drying up? I've heard a lot about how it's not the golden ticket everybody thought it was 20 years ago.

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Sometimes I forget that those 6 figure jobs require one living in US, then I remember and I'm a bit happier with my not 6 figures job.

If you’re smart it’s a much better deal to live in the USA. It’s why you see so many Europeans move here and not the other way around. Europe is better if you’re dumb as there are better social systems. You can just exist more easily there.

That's unfortunately the reality of America, intelligence plus motivation are greatly rewarded. If you want to do anything more than exist on the standard scale it's considerably harder outside of the US.

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> This can't change because it's not determined by some governing body. It actually is. Rents are expensive because zoning laws severely limit density and require lots of car parking.

Even in cities that don’t require that, rents are still expensive (with the exception of Tokyo where you can rent a 2.5 tatami sized apartment, shared toilet, no central heating, for $300/month).

In very few places in the US would "no heat and no toilet" be acceptable, regardless of price.

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I always have to think about this when people say "buy more at small businesses!" Most small businesse owners I met were just as shitty as the ones of big businesses, they just weren't as smart as them.

Very tangentially, most academics I have met think of themselves as democrat socialists, but run their labs like authoritarian libertarians (sounds a bit like an oxymoron, I know).

In general I've noticed there is surprisingly little correlation between a lot of people's political, religious, and even moral beliefs vs. their personal behaviour.

This includes myself, by the way. But I do try...

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The existence of worse doesn't make something good .

Amazon is a desirable and good job in the low-skill, low-wage world. The only people who think otherwise are rich 6-figure making degree holders.

If it's so good, why are they unionizing? But yes, there are worse jobs.

Florida min wage was 8.25 before 2021. So nearly half the Amazon wage.

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The existence of worse doesn't make something good .

Amazon is a desirable and good job in the low-skill, low-wage world. The only people who think otherwise are rich 6-figure making degree holders.

I wonder how many Amazon warehouse workers have a degree? I guess it’s a lot.

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"It makes it harder to feel sympathy for those struggling: Indeed, repeatedly making wrong decisions has poor outcomes. At 18 it was pretty obvious that in the most basic sense, code = money." It's not the poverty that makes it hard to relate, it's that they seem to almost live by instinct and emotion. I wish them well but don't know what's wrong in their heads or have the slightest idea of how to durably improve the…

That's why I self-deprecatingly concluded with "(aye, there's the rub)". My thinking is irredeemably worldly if not outright myopic. Then there's the futility of "setting an example" -- when I was young and poor, would I listen to or learn from someone like my older self? Doubtful. The exaggerated bravado of a Jay-Z was more meaningful, that is, fuel for meditations. So, away from rationality and towards Romanticism?…

As bad as America treats their poor it's far better than any other country truly contemporary to the US. Which is a high bar at any rate. The European social safety nets exist only due to the massive support given by the US over the last 100 years. Same for SK and Japan.

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Even in cities that don’t require that, rents are still expensive (with the exception of Tokyo where you can rent a 2.5 tatami sized apartment, shared toilet, no central heating, for $300/month).

In very few places in the US would "no heat and no toilet" be acceptable, regardless of price.

No heat seems bad, but I'd bet SROs with shared bathrooms would be extremely popular in NYC if they were legal.

I'm not sure what happened to them, but there was a startup trying to do this: https://www.curbed.com/2021/03/brownstone-shared-housing.htm...

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