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Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by elihu »

jejones3141 wrote: post #148
SubiculumCode wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but QWERTY is labeled and obvious how to use. Hence the great number of woodpecking that occurs out there.

That's why I got a Dvorak skin for my TypeMatrix keyboard. I know QWERTY well enough I don't have to look for it, and I can switch to Dvorak and be able to peek if need be.

I've been using dvorak for a long time. I kind of wonder if not having a keyboard with the correct dvorak keycaps actually helps learn it faster than it would if you had the correct keycaps? If you can't look at the keys to know what they are, then it encourages touch typing. Still, I can see where it'd be nice to be able to fall back on looking at the keys.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by floatboth »

troupe wrote: post #279
TulliusCicero wrote: post #134

> Keen also claimed that he’d won several online gaming competitions using the CharaChorder, which he says brings up an interesting ethical dilemma. “I’m not sure if there’s any restrictions on what keyboards you’re allowed to use,” he said over a video of him playing Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on the Nintendo Switch, using his CharaChorder running through a XIM-style adapter. As someone who's somewhat familiar with…

Kings Quest I, Zork, or Adventure maybe. :)

nethack! although it would only be cheating in the "fastest death" category

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by sturmeh »

It's not the keyboard itself but the software implemented that allows users to type this fast by predicting the order that you intended to hit keys allowing you to press all the buttons in "hello" at the same time, the fact it translates the ambiguous keypress into a dictionary word is the assistance.

It's clearly "cheating" in the context of a typing competition.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by kragen »

dkersten wrote: post #277
kragen wrote: post #266

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I look forward to hearing your results. I think you'll reach the 140-190 wpm range that way, not 250 or 350, and definitely not 500.

If you watch some of his videos linked by others here, you can see that to get those high rates he has chords mapped to entire words. I can do that with the Kinesis Advantage too.

Oh, indeed, with keyboard macros you could surely reach 500 words per minute. I thought you meant typing on Colemak.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by libraryatnight »

grogenaut wrote: post #340
thanhhaimai wrote: post #280

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> Monkeytpe won’t let Keen run up the leaderboard, but he did win another typing competition using the CharaChorder to hit 267 WPM with 76% accuracy. IMHO, 76% accuracy is honestly low. If the person has to sacrifice so much accuracy to hit 267 I'm not sure it's worth it. For most typing, making a mistake actually interrupts your thought process. This speed is only achievable/useful when there are text on the screen…

I actively worked to remove my oh I typed that wrong reflex. Because I need to ready anything important again and I'll click the squiggles. Everything else dosent mattr enughf for me to kare. Or I use with Google voice dictation and just deal with the craziness. Dictated not red

I can't tell if this is poorly typed as a joke.

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Post by JCharante »

xg15 wrote: post #199

> Instead of typing h e l l o, a chorded typer mashes h, e, l, and o to produce the word. With practice, it’s much faster If this works like swipe typing on phones, you'll type blazingly fast, but you have to retype each word several times until the AI finally guesses the right one.

Even better, you have to create a keyboard shortcut for each word.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by gokdisjtrdcvv5 »

thanhhaimai wrote: post #280
umvi wrote: post #7

The "500 WPM" video is a little suspect. He types literally one memorized sentence and extrapolates a WPM from that one 10 word sentence. I'd like to see him actually type 500 meaningful words in under 60 seconds. Anyway, this is cool but basically just a modern stenography device. Steno has a learning curve problem that makes it so most people won't use it.

> Monkeytpe won’t let Keen run up the leaderboard, but he did win another typing competition using the CharaChorder to hit 267 WPM with 76% accuracy. IMHO, 76% accuracy is honestly low. If the person has to sacrifice so much accuracy to hit 267 I'm not sure it's worth it. For most typing, making a mistake actually interrupts your thought process. This speed is only achievable/useful when there are text on the screen…

I type for fun and 76% is awful. If I dip below 85% I instantly stop. 76% means I have super cold fingers while having butter slathered all over the keyboard!

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by gexla »

umvi wrote: post #7

The "500 WPM" video is a little suspect. He types literally one memorized sentence and extrapolates a WPM from that one 10 word sentence. I'd like to see him actually type 500 meaningful words in under 60 seconds. Anyway, this is cool but basically just a modern stenography device. Steno has a learning curve problem that makes it so most people won't use it.

Does it matter? The article is talking about typing competition. The WPM is in this context. There's lots of competitions which seem to have no real world practical value other than people believing it's enough to put together a competition for it.

Re: Keyboard lets people type so fast it’s banned from typing competitions

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Post by aphit »

Retric wrote: post #298
thanhhaimai wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Monkeytpe won’t let Keen run up the leaderboard, but he did win another typing competition using the CharaChorder to hit 267 WPM with 76% accuracy. IMHO, 76% accuracy is honestly low. If the person has to sacrifice so much accuracy to hit 267 I'm not sure it's worth it. For most typing, making a mistake actually interrupts your thought process. This speed is only achievable/useful when there are text on the screen…

“CharaChorder’s internal processor arranges the letters on-screen in real time faster than the human eye can perceive.” So, 76% may also be an artifact due to the way the keyboard interprets inputs rather than something a user would need to correct.

I own a CharaChorder and this is exactly right. Using the CC, you can't get 100% on monkeytype because when I type `helo` it then backspaces that and types `hello` using the CharaChorder's onboard firmware.

The final text is 100% accurate--it's just what was typed by the keyboard wasn't 100% accurate.

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