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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I have alt-backtick mapped to my favorite terminal app in Linux, and control-backtick mapped to a new browser window. I'd be buggered if I ever switched to Mac!

These keybinds are relatively common on Linux too, they're Gnome defaults.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Maybe it's just me, but tweaking Windows extensively always feels like you're fighting against the OS. I don't have these issues with my Linux installs.

You don’t uninstall snap if you use Ubuntu?

Uninstalling software isn't the same as installing new, different software that didn't even come in your distribution's repositories.

And, besides, a lot of people don't run Ubuntu, perhaps to get away from snap, perhaps to get away from systemd, or perhaps just because they can..

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

I'm on W11 as well and enjoy it over W10 for a variety of reasons (mostly gaming and HDR related), but instead of adding to that noise I just wanted to point out that this change is in Windows 10 as well. From the link, last sentence in the second paragraph:

"As it turns out, Microsoft slipped the update into the final patch Tuesday of 2021 for both Windows 10 and Windows 11."

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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I updated to 11 on my laptop but kept 10 on my main machine. I see zero reason to update my main computer to 11. I was willing to give centered start button a try but the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker. If I have two firefox windows open I want to know it and to be able to pick which one I want without having to hover my mouse over the icon for a second while th…

It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

The app 'Contexts' will change your life if you feel like this.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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i thought that too! but firefox has different dns requests going to their servers as well.

On linux you can use IceCat. On windows, download simplewall and block pingsender.exe there. Should get rid of the queries if you combine it with userjs tweaking.

> On windows, download simplewall and block pingsender.exe there

Even if that works, it'll likely get patched out eventually with a forced update.

If you do insist on using Windows, an external firewall is the only way to be sure. But even that isn't foolproof since another update may decide that your Windows license isn't valid unless the analytics server is reachable.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

Sadly there are no guarantees that these nice "features" won't be backported to Win10 as well, just like they did with telemetry in Windows 7.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Tell me again how Microsoft has changed and it isn’t the same company anymore, and how EEE is ancient history.

I feel like Microsoft really has changed. Not the EEE portion though, it's just that quality and support of their products is no longer a serious consideration. We had to engage software assurance support recently and it is horrifically useless compared to the last time we did.

> it's just that quality and support of their products is no longer a serious consideration

They did lay off their QA teams a while back.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

This was the feature that convinced me to buy a Mac ~15 years ago. When I'm working, I keep jumping between a few apps (e.g. browser, emails, terminal, IDE, text editor, PDF viewer, reference manager), and the additional level of hierarchy makes switching to a specific application easy. Before macOS, I was using both Windows and Linux. Alt-tab was often useless in both, because it was flooded with redundant windows.

On GNU/Linux with the Sway Wayland compositor, I have a bunch of keybinds to focus a program by app_id (wayland) or class (xwayland) so I can jump to specific windows even on other monitors or workspaces. This wouldn't solve the issue of multiple windows of the same program, but I find I rarely have such a thing. I bind the actions to ctrl-super-foo where foo is a letter associated with a mnemonic like b for browser or v for video (player). I then also made a key in my qmk (keyboard firmware) config where pressing it once acts as ctrl-super and also like a sticky key where I can let go and then slowly press the next letter instead of holding the modifiers down. I've been very happy with this setup.

I do tend to have multiple terminals (local tmux session, remote tmux session, tmux session dedicated to my text editor), which I launch with custom app_ids so that they all have their own separate keybind.

Just to let you know you can probably get something pretty personalized outside of macOS as well!

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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You don’t uninstall snap if you use Ubuntu?

Uninstalling software isn't the same as installing new, different software that didn't even come in your distribution's repositories. And, besides, a lot of people don't run Ubuntu, perhaps to get away from snap, perhaps to get away from systemd, or perhaps just because they can..

Most people do if they install a distro from my experience. It’s easy and it just works.

You never install more software in Linux? I certainly do, it’s why I got it. You can use this to make Windows “distros”. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufactur...

I’m not a Windows user but it’s not fundamentally different, Linux can come bloated, Windows can be stripped or another version like LTSC can be used.

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