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Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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Would you name some please? Do you mean like ACLU (BCCLA in Canada)

The ACLU is not what it once was. I will not donate to them. Even the EFF is growing questionable. I would definitely be curious what recommendations people have.

The EFF takes weird policy positions. They're against speed cameras, but in favor of the status quo (police with guns manually pulling people over for speeding in cities).

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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I mean I do. EFF, Wikimedia, ACLU (Only EFF is really for this particular issue though)

I stopped supporting the ACLU when they started doing this: Fighting against due process: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/see-you-court-aclu-sues... claiming there's no men: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1196877415810813955 and this: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1199725066302308354 Telling families to discuss pronouns: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1250795126584217602 and this: https://twitter.com/ACLU/st…

you just gave me a bunch of reasons to start supporting them...

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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The ACLU is not what it once was. I will not donate to them. Even the EFF is growing questionable. I would definitely be curious what recommendations people have.

Since several people are asking why the ACLU isn't what it once was, let me answer that. In 1978, the ACLU successfully defended the right of neo-Nazis to march in the predominantly Jewish town of Skokie, Illinois. This action reflected their commitment to free speech, regardless of how offensive the speech might be. The movie "Skokie" and documentary "Mighty Ira" are based on this event-- I highly recommend them bec…

Freedom of speech is such a bizarre thing in USA.

I understand citizens need the right to voice their opinion without fear of government repression; but citizens shouldn't believe they have the right to insult and behave antisocially to other citizens.

Any kind of white supremacist behavior is not something to be treasured as freedom, because that enables their harmful behavior against other citizens.

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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Noticed that the last connection time is a date, rounded to the day. 1634169600000 (unix millis) Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:00:00 AM Well done. I immediately thought that having a millisecond granularity of last connection time could be used to roughly correlate who contacted whom, depending on what the "connected" event is considered.

Why have this at all?

Probably to purge old messages from the server-side if the last connected date is reasonably newer.

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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You're exactly right, you don't pay capital gains tax, and DAFs really are the poor man's "tax-exempt foundation." Billionaires have access to much fancier schemes than this, and I won't even attempt to describe all those. But yeah, I imagine "donating their shares without capital gains taxes" figures into them. I just noticed you said "trusts for their kids" -- that's something different. If the children can access…

Yeah, I didn't realize what an enormous difference this made until I ran the numbers. In your example above, let's say the person purchased those 10 Meta shares for $38 each at the IPO and they're worth $322 each now. That's $3220 in proceeds and a $2840 capital gain. The taxes on this depend on income level and state of residence, but let's say they're in CA making $300K/year. They'll pay 20% federal capital gains t…

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Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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Yeah, I didn't realize what an enormous difference this made until I ran the numbers. In your example above, let's say the person purchased those 10 Meta shares for $38 each at the IPO and they're worth $322 each now. That's $3220 in proceeds and a $2840 capital gain. The taxes on this depend on income level and state of residence, but let's say they're in CA making $300K/year. They'll pay 20% federal capital gains t…

HN needs a way to save comments.

That's what the "favorite" link is for.

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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The ACLU is not what it once was. I will not donate to them. Even the EFF is growing questionable. I would definitely be curious what recommendations people have.

The EFF takes weird policy positions. They're against speed cameras, but in favor of the status quo (police with guns manually pulling people over for speeding in cities).

It’s even worse. The police don’t pull people over for speeding anymore (that’s good, at least from the “guys with guns” perspective). But the bad part is drivers are now emboldened to drive recklessly. These people now kill and injure more than the police — looking at the latest numbers police violence is down while traffic violence is up. IMO speed and red light cameras would do a lot to reduce the use of police while still seeing traffic safety enforced.

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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Except it really doesn’t. The United States has been a stable democracy with absolute freedom of speech for two and a half centuries. The same for Switzerland and the UK (British hate speech laws were only installed in the 1990s).

In contrast the country where the Nazis actually came to power, Weimar Germany, had some of the most extensive hate speech codes of any Western nation in the 1920s.

Re: Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Central District of California

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Yes, although the way around this for law enforcement is to pressure Apple and Google to remove Signal from the App Store/Play respectively (to protect children!) and work on operating system level bypasses of Signal. I am fearing this scenario.

This. The Internet may interpret censorship as damage and route around it, but spy agencies interpret laws as inconveniences and ignore them. As access closes in one place (i.e application layer), they will just get closer to the source (i.e operating system or supply chain)

I fully believe that by the end of the decade it will be illegal in some Western countries to go online with a device that doesn't provide a measured boot attestation that it is running a government-approved operating system.
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