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FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Huh? Facebook could even should down the Oculus stuff, if they wanted to. Facebook making Oculus worse might be bad for customers, but it's great for Oculus' competition, ain't it?

Given the headline FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization , the parent post is accusing FB of abusing their market position in social networking (by having an intentionally over-eager ban hammer coupled with intentionally poor remediation for it) in order to sell more Oculus headsets (as owning an Oculus gets you access to a better support channel).

Oh, that makes more sense. Thanks!

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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So FB can take over the VR market by over-moderating FB, and making Oculus a requirement to get support. Looks very anti-competitive and illegal.

I think both the Valve Index and HP Reverb G2 are better headsets, and also better purchases by not having anything to do with Facebook. So, no risk of a Facebook monopoly here.

Unfortunately, Facebook heavily subsidizes the cost of the Quest 2, while Index and Reverb G2 have to be sold at a profit.

Facebook is also deep in bed with Qualcomm making Quest 2 work fully standalone and getting the XR2 SOC at a steep discount. Index and Reverb G2 require desktop PCs and high-end GPUs, and other companies using the same Qualcomm SOC have to pay full price.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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I build and run exceptional support teams, and I'm so confident in that it renders your comment borderline comical, thanks for the almost laugh.

If you legitimately think this, go back and read your comment again. Thinking that kind of environment counts as "exceptional" is completely deluded.

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Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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I build and run exceptional support teams, and I'm so confident in that it renders your comment borderline comical, thanks for the almost laugh.

If you legitimately think this, go back and read your comment again. Thinking that kind of environment counts as "exceptional" is completely deluded.

I legitimately think this. I read my comment again. Can you explain my delusion?

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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There's a bit of a story behind this. Oculus is owned by Facebook, but the Facebook website and the Oculus headsets/software are by different teams working in different states. When Facebook bought Oculus, they decided to get rid of the Oculus-specific account system and use only Facebook accounts. The Facebook account requirement took effect with the launch of the Oculus Quest 2, which launched in October 2020. Octo…

It's nothing new that Facebook has been destroying their VR platform due to their awful account integration. This part is just hilarious.

Reports of their death are as usual overstated. Even looking at the steam hardware survey shows this, with quest 2s eating up almost all the market share.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Is there a techbro version of "Karen" because this is that. I mean, seriously... buying people's personal contact details??

Seriously. My whole thought reading GP's post was "This person is coming across as a complete asshole by their own words , but in their mind they are thinking they are coming across as some kind of hero."

Seems fair to me. Don't let them hide from the consequences of their shitty decisions by firewalling themselves behind underpaid tech support.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Please stop using a very common name as a derogative! It's insulting to the women who have that name. Also, as you noticed, there is no male version of it. It's a decidedly sexist meme that shouldn't be promoted.

Oh hardly, using a sterotypical name is a very common comedic device. Tarquin and Julian are out-of-touch upper class people who probably go on illegal fox hunts, Karen gets unreasonably angry over petty things at low-level customer service people who can't argue back, Doris insists on driving at 25 mph in a 60 while her husband Bernard shouts at passing children for sport. Kevin is roughly the male equivalent of Kar…

Die in a fire

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Is there a techbro version of "Karen" because this is that. I mean, seriously... buying people's personal contact details??

Please stop using a very common name as a derogative! It's insulting to the women who have that name. Also, as you noticed, there is no male version of it. It's a decidedly sexist meme that shouldn't be promoted.

I support you and love you. HN comments are the worst

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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So FB can take over the VR market by over-moderating FB, and making Oculus a requirement to get support. Looks very anti-competitive and illegal.

I think both the Valve Index and HP Reverb G2 are better headsets, and also better purchases by not having anything to do with Facebook. So, no risk of a Facebook monopoly here.

Looking at the marketshare numbers I think that attitude is incredibly naïve.

Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Are you saying projects are highly encouraged to be completed within just 6 months?

FB policy says they want to reward results and not effort. But it makes it hard to reward people for making progress on things that can't be done in 6 months. It also makes for shitty service quality around the end of June and December, as people rush to push things to prod. (I've heard this may have changed, but it's hard to notice good service quality). (Former FB employee)

One wonders if this is why the train wreck of a web redesign was pushed out despite being... awful, and buggy as all hell.
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