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> Sex work is work that will always have demand Sure, doesn't make it a good or socially acceptable job though.
Neither is garbage bin collection*, but there's still people doing it. *insert locally-relevant pariah job here
Fire up the throwaway! Not 100% related to the article, but directly related. I worked as developer for a product in the same niche ("democratizing adult content"). I spent almost 2 years working on the frontend, devops, and building out the analytics engine (all pre-covid). Anyway, on to the comment at hand. We had a small number of users compared to OnlyFans (when I left, there were about 20K active content creator…
I think in general there are some pretty big costs that aren't fully understood to doing sex work, even outside of the social stigma of being found out by your friends and family, there are mental health costs that are often not talked about. A lot of sex workers overtly reinforce social behaviors towards women (sexualization and objectification among other things) in order to appeal to men, which hurts them in the l…
The biggest problem is that their professional skills are fleecing men out of money.
"Who has deep pockets and how can I get the most money out of them?"
It's not like you can just turn off that mentality once they quit.
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All valid points. I guess it’s difficult to simultaneously de-stigmatize and urge caution. Instead what happens is we encourage new people to try it, and then some of the people who have tried it share their experiences with the community. That’s how people end up learning about problems with it. Since it is an experimental phase there are more failures (went poorly for some folks). We might say the same thing happen…
And then the cycle of stigmatization begins again… Almost as if there is a purpose to it. Is stigmatization always an objectively bad thing? I suppose it depends on your frame of reference. I don’t think any person should be stigmatized for what they do, but certain activities may well deserve it. I suppose that’s also a recurrent theme in the New Testament. One thing I think ought to be stigmatized more is video gam…
Why stigmatize something instead of the addiction itself? I knew someone who poured themselves into music production and fantasy to the detriment of everything else. Would you stigmatize music?
Perhaps if something is almost always destructive then some social or legal regulation is warranted. I don't see that with gaming, despite the damage caused by outliers.
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“Ask women what they experience if they show up to work without makeup.” My experience of not wearing makeup in lots of places, over many years: Nothing happens. It’s fine.
Sure you might not notice it. But 80% of others notice and comment on it. They don't expirence anything directly, but through time they get better treatment versus their non makeup wearing counterparts. Source? My office expirence, also my gf's master thesis was on how apperence affects office atmosphere.. (something in this line)
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> A lot of sex workers overtly reinforce social behaviors towards women (sexualization and objectification among other things) in order to appeal to men, which hurts them in the long run. This is something that's really been bugging me when looking at Reddit's porn subs. There has been a really noticeable change in the last 2 years. Back then, a majority of the posters seemed to actually be amateurs getting their kic…
Probably bad for the mental health of the men too. As the thread ancestor noted - sometimes "'fan[s]' [go] nuclear and was waging all out digital war.". I'm guessing that is just a thing some men do but it is bound to be made worse by women correctly figuring out the high-engagement equilibrium is tantalising without promising. But a lot of them probably aren't going to realise that they're dealing with unexploded or…
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/506723/how-did-o...
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I'm not quite understanding your assertion here. are you saying that because people are selling pictures/videos of them selves doing sexy things, we should expect and accept that people are violent to them? I mean, chat shows are pretty much the same thing, an illusion of a social relationship, but we don't accept stalkers on those platforms? why does nakedness change that?
>we should expect and accept that people are violent to them? Accept no, expect absolutely. Which is why boundaries and control mechanisms are needed, the removal of which is the entire premise of OnlyFans. >I mean, chat shows are pretty much the same thing, an illusion of a social relationship, but we don't accept stalkers on those platforms? Are you referring to Twitch ? That's not the same thing, at all. Sex isn't…
I wasn't directly. Twitch is just another broadcast medium. The only thing that's different is that its normally private, so young teens/adults can view the stream without the parents being aware.
What is perplexing to me is that in our[1] society, public violence against women is almost never accepted. Men are shamed[2] and hung out to dry for doing it(if they are caught)
but we as a culture accept intimidating and violent behavior towards women on the internet. If I were to hurl abuse in the street at a woman in the same way that is done online, I'd be punched.
So I'm not sure why there is a divide between online/offline here. I have a few ideas, but nothing concrete I would sum up here.
[1]Anglo saxon, western
[2] I'm not going to go into the whole issue of women being "protected" from violence, its a large and complex subject full of holes.
> The company said Tina did not report the racial slur and it was not detected by the site's moderation system because it was pluralised. Wow, that's not a very robust moderation system...
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I speak a non-European language and my experience is exactly the same. Swearing in my native tongue just sounds extremely vulgar. Swearing in English - no problem.
I'm learning Russian and I seriously have to think twice if I want to swear in Russian because I feel like I'd be crossing a line, there's nothing casual about it. I don't feel quite the same about Spanish, although the expletives that are more layered in metaphor amuse me more than anything else. Me cago en la leche!
I suspect that has more to do with your own culture's relationship with Russia than something specific to the language.
Being curious about the onboarding, about 2 years ago I signed up and starting doing non-adult content on OF. It's really similar to patreon, substack or bandcamp; optionally paywalled content on a freemium model. The onboarding and experience of OF is somewhat odd in that it didn't ever say "this is for you to post explicit content". It's structured for it sure, but every page is isolated. Even on the splash it just…
> sex related bots trying to sell me products/services assuming I produce adult content
That sounds neat
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> there are mental health costs that are often not talked about On the contrary, everyone is talking about mental costs, implying that they do not know what they are doing. I know a person who changed her work from being a cashier at a supermarket to a sex worker. Mentally, she benefited a lot. In one job, she felt like an automaton serving people. I other she had personal relationships with her clients. You can gues…
My wife who is a sex worker is in therapy provided by her camsite because the work is so toxic. She was as pro-sex-work as you can be when she first started five years ago. It's majority trauma and I have to hear the stories every day. The men who drive by want to cum as fast as possible with as little damage to their pocketbook as possible. So they drive in, maybe critique her appearance, say, "tits" or "ass" (usual…
And the whole "thank you" entitlement. Lol. Shouldn't she be the one for thanking her clients. That's usually how it works in real life sex work.