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I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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But you do lose a lot of functionality. Especially on the iPhone as there is no real way to add apps without it.

App Store and iCloud accounts are separate.

This is a distinction with almost no difference. You're still trusting Apple with essentially same set of data.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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"I think it’s as simple as it being a better experience for the type of people who would buy the Home edition. ... allows MS to provide a lot of the services people expect using Android or iOS as their primary devices. This. 100 times. The main compute device people as a population are familiar with is the cellphone/tablet, and usage patterns that differ from this are becoming the odd man out. Consumer tech. Commodit…

> This. 100 times. > The main compute device people as a population are familiar with is the cellphone/tablet, and usage patterns that differ from this are becoming the odd man out. (Smart)phones and tablets are not computing devices any more than a refrigerator. You cannot do any real work on them. Even finding a text editor, let alone editing, is a challenge. Other stuff like SW development or CAD/CAE is the same.…

> (Smart)phones and tablets are not computing devices any more than a refrigerator. You cannot do any real work on them.

Nonsense, of course you can. 'Real work' isn't just programming or whatever. Writers, painters and musicians do plenty of 'real work' on tablets and such.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Almost crazier than this is the need to have a Microsoft account in order for your kids to be able to play certain games together on their Nintendo Switch that have been bought for 50-plus dollars, and have no indication on the package that having a Microsoft account is a prerequisite for collaborative play.

Microsoft makes little children cry. They did the same kind of nonsense to Minecraft Pocket Edition and later fucked up their login process causing my 8 year old to lose all his Minecraft worlds. I hate that company so much for so many reasons.

What Microsoft has done with Minecraft is so gross. I installed it recently after not playing for maybe a decade so I could try the RTX support, and I just had to shake my head at how packed the home screen is with micro-transactions now.

This started as a very simple, creative game for kids, and now the only way to play is to enter through the gift-shop. Minecraft was already one of the best selling games of all time. Is it really necessary to constantly expose 8 year old kids to aggressive marketing to maximize profits?

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Roblox. I had my kids on linux originally, but there's no linux version of Roblox, and the proposed workarounds I found were unreliable, out of date, or more work than I was willing to invest in.

Oh no, I'm just going to have to hope they won't ask for it before Proton (or something) starts supporting it :) But you are right, a time may come when they will want Windows. Although my wife's computer runs it (needs it as a teacher), so they may use that for Win only stuff. I'll deal with it when the time comes. I could do a VM with GPU pass-through and Steam client... Although that may also turn out to be more t…

Won’t the Steam client also ask you for a phone number as soon as you want to buy anything? How do you decide where to draw the line?

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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This is why I haven't taken the dive either. Though, is this why Microsoft crested Hello? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sign-in-to-your-...

Might be, I don't know. But I am not going to use biometrics either, for various reasons.

Hello also has a "PIN" method, a 4-8 digit numerical code.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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>fit the developers needs, not the user needs. This is why I qualified open source with "community maintained." When there's a strong partition between the community and the developers then FOSS looks a lot like closed software.

> This is why I qualified open source with "community maintained." When there's a strong partition between the community and the developers then FOSS looks a lot like closed software. I'm just going to come out and say that I think Gnome and Firefox are two of the worst offenders of this.

Worst, but not nearly the only. This kind of partitioning describes the vast majority of new projects that I encounter and have an interest in helping. Most ironic are those projects that simultaneously purport to have a mission for human rights and freedom.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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I know the post is about Windows 11 but I installed Windows 10 for someone on a laptop about 2 months ago and it had the most crazy dark pattern I've ever seen to be able to proceed past the installation screen without a Microsoft account. Short of not connecting to the internet first the only way I saw where it was possible to create an offline account was to first attempt to sign in using an incorrect password with…

It is a shame to watch the decline of Windows. There isn't much I can recommend to non-technical users looking affordable computing relatively under their control. Manipulation and user hostility is unacceptable. Any of these possibilities would be nice: * The market presents a kinder (and equally-affordable x86) solution and users follow. * ReactOS lurches leaps and bounds ahead. * Microsoft realises this trajectory…

Year of Linux on desktop, it's coming home boys!

I'm joking but secretly hoping it happens.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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This makes me want to move back to Linux, but last time I tried Ubuntu (2020) there were lots of little annoyances. Off the top of my head: - Screen tearing. I Googled around and installed the Nvidia drivers for my laptop, but it never went away. - No detection of tablet mode. - No auto screen rotation. - Slow Blender rendering. Probably a PEBKAC with my driver setup, but it just worked in Windows and it was easy to…

- Give Pop!_OS a try. It's main selling point is that it just works with modern hardware. Aside, don't expect switching OS-es to be a walk in the park. Most things will work as good as on windows. You'll probably have to do some custom configuration for your laptop. Tweaks for your specific laptop model will be documented on the arch wiki.

I don't know. I installed Linux Mint three years ago and it was kinda of a walk in the park. Only now I don't have to take care of my OS (why is it slow? What are those things running on startup? Is this malware? Etc. Is this program legit?). It just gets out of the way.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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it's time to ditch Windows for linux

I am always surprised by the lack of a proper "Linux Wine" OS, binary compatible with Windows, but with linux under the hood..

Maybe if WINE ditched their "clean room" directive...

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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you would think, but that's not the case. It's used to correlate data sharing between data brokerages. Facebook has your number, Twitter has your number, Microsoft has your number. What better FK to link all this data together than that? Now Microsoft knows what you searched for. Twitter knows what you bought on Amazon. Facebook knows who you hung out with. It's all about the data brokerages.

Obviously it can be for more than one purpose. See spam reports from email1@outlook.com with phone number $x? Disable sending email for all accounts with that phone number. They've already signed up for three accounts this month with that number? Stop them from making any more without paying for a new number.

I mean, sure, it can be used this way. Often is for email deduplication of accounts. It's real strength comes from 3rd party data brokers and correlating various data profiles to you, the consumer.
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