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Re: Brave Search beta

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I have a few websites and receive payments from Brave Rewards almost every month. They pay me in BAT, but since I don't care about BAT or can use it directly, it gets converted to my local currency, which I then can use to pay for stuff. It's a mistake to assume something is nonsense or bad just because crypto is involved. Provided that you can convert it to something usable, it doesn't really matter if you're paid i…

How much are you earning? A few dollars a month or something more substantial?

A little over 800 BAT this year: https://i.imgur.com/p7o6QKT.png

That's ~400 dollars at current BAT prices ($0.49) or ~1200 dollars at the price BAT was ~1 month ago ($1.50).

It's not a lot, BAT value isn't very stable and I'd make more money with Google Adsense, but this comes from users that block ads anyway. 400 is better than 0.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Reminder that Brave has done some morally questionable things in the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)#Controvers... They've since corrected both of those things, but those are enough for me to choose not to trust them as an organization.

I do my best to avoid sarcasm, but but but... have you looked at other players in search?

Re: Brave Search beta

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> If all browsers end up using Blink (Google), the Web will suffer as developers will only optimize and test for the Blink rendering engine. Am I the only one that thinks that this would be a good thing? Like the entire industry sharing the same core open source technology? Write a website once and it works perfectly across all platforms?

Chromium is nominally open source - in practice it's controlled by Google employees in any way that matters. So you would literally be handing full control over the web-experience to Google.

Nothing would stop it being forked. If for example, Microsoft wanted something added then they could fork it; add their code and use that in Edge.

Re: Brave Search beta

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DuckDuckGo allows you to do a Google search by prepending "!g" to any query. So usually I do that for the last 5% of queries that DDG fails on.

As I said in my other comment[1], you might be interested in using !sp which gives you the same results without Google tracking [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27598042

Startpage is owned by an adtech company now.

Re: Brave Search beta

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I think the thing that excites me the most about this, is the non-personalized search results.

Ironically, I end up using DDG for more accuracy, because a lot of the time on Google I am unable to get to articles or information I'm looking for, no matter how I search.

I think this is a result of personalized search results - i.e. Google "guessing" based on ML models what my interests are. Many times I don't want this, I just want to see pages that use the more classic PageRank algorithm.

Honestly, sometimes when I search it feels like Google is "preaching" to me in a way - rather than showing me what I search for, it shows me what it thinks I ought to be viewing. I don't get this from DDG, it feels like the results there are a lot more objective?

Re: Brave Search beta

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I wish them luck. More competition in search is welcome. I don't think I will use it very often though because accuracy in search results trumps any concern I have with privacy online that I get from using google or bing.

The result accuracy actually seems pretty good thus far. Although I have mixed feelings about Brave as a company, I may have to switch over from DDG/SP.

Re: Brave Search beta

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I wish them luck. More competition in search is welcome. I don't think I will use it very often though because accuracy in search results trumps any concern I have with privacy online that I get from using google or bing.

But which is more accurate google or bing? Having used DDG (~bing) for a few years now, at first I felt it was inferior, but I stuck with it for the privacy. Now I feel it's roughly equal, depending on the query. Google is full of spammy SEO content, where as DDG elevates niche content (probably more because it's not targeted by SEO spam, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt)

I feel it's somewhat impossible to discern accuracy in search results, as you can't see what's missing. But by the time you feel the results are missing something, they're likely missing ALOT.

Re: Brave Search beta

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I wish them luck. More competition in search is welcome. I don't think I will use it very often though because accuracy in search results trumps any concern I have with privacy online that I get from using google or bing.

part of the accuracy comes from google knowing who you are and what you typically search for.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26328758 If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine. I can't express how exciting this is to me. Over the past few years, I have made several attempts to replace Google Search with DuckDuckGo. But they have all failed and I always ended up changing the default search engine back to Google. I mean, DDG worked f…

> Brave Search beta is based on an independent index, the first of its kind.

That's... an interesting way to put it. I can't really twist and turn it into the truth though. Smells like it was put through a lot of PR.

>However, for some queries, Brave can anonymously check our search results against third-party results, and mix them on the results page.

This is something almost all of the search engines outside Google and Bing does. DDG does this with Bing for example.

As far as I can tell the only "new" in this will be that the same thing is done again by another company.

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