This is a joke, right?
iOS 15 Humane
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#342I like this idea a lot, but I’m no longer sure that the stated premise holds true:
“Its business is not built around ads.”
https://twitter.com/modestproposal1/status/13851944692224081...
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#343Why would Apple do any of this? Their ultimate goal is to drive user engagement and increase revenue, which is interrupted when they have to remind users to stop using their platform.
That sounds more like the ultimate goal of Facebook and Twitter.
In contrast, Apple's ultimate goal is to sell more devices and get more people onto their subscription services.
The ideas mentioned in the article don't collide with this goal. They are intended to provide more (not less) value to the lives of Apple's customers. To help you when you yourself recognize you're engaging too much, or in a bad way. They seem to be configurable to the customer's preferences too. If you wouldn't want these features, fine, but others might want them, and prefer Apple's products over e.g. Android phones because of having the option.
The only party who could be displeased with these system interventions are the big ad-based app or platform developers that do rely on user engagement.
Update: Apple has some shared incentives with engagement-based business models, like their revenue stream of App Store (in-)app purchase commissions, but it's still much less than Google/Facebook/Twitter's reliance on that stuff.
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#344This is somewhat off topic. I have read through other people's comments about good and bad experiences with push notifications on Apple and Android. People use them as Todo lists and for a number of things.
For something so critical, why has Apple or Google not created a push notification log on your device? Some of us live by our notifications and the fact that I accidentally swiped an important notification away or I thought I saw a slack notification come through but couldn't find it gives me anxiety.
As important as push is to our daily lives, you would think there would be more innovation in managing these notifications.
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#345The article wants Apple to save us from mindless browsing, but I see mindless browsing as unavoidable. Not because of some technical or legal thing, but because mindless browsing is a good thing. We need it. Mindless browsing is like a walk through the woods, just looking for what is happening, navigating a huge amount of information that is hardly important at the moment – oh, the cherry tree is blooming – but could…
This comparison is apples and oranges. Fresh air and sunlight actually has tangible physical benefits. Staring at a dim blue screen while contorting your thumbs isn’t doing you any favors physically. To say NOTHING of how infuriating anti-social it has made us as a society. Nature is mostly good. Mindless scrolling is mostly bad.
I don't want fresh air or sunlight. I want to sit in a dark basement with a big Unix beard. I hate this "lifestyle and health" dogma that has poisoned hacker culture.
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#346Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The food delivery apps are worst for this My bank, which is otherwise great, does this. Critically important push notifications and a pretty steady stream of meaningless advertisement.
What kind of important notifications does your bank send? I don't think I've gotten a single notification from my bank about anything. They do still send paper mail though.
I started using M1 Finance, and while they send useful notifications about when transfers and rebalances occur, they use those same permissions to send marketing type notifications that you can't disable: nagging me to take out a loan from them or refer friends to their platform. It's obnoxious. These should never be notifications, let alone ones you can't even selectively opt out of.
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#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my country we confirm every transaction with 2FA, if the site supports secure payments (almost every website)
Sigh. I wish the US would encourage this. It would make me feel so much more confident about fraud prevention.
EU caps card interchange fees (.3% credit .2% debit), so the baseline is lower. US has comparably huge card rewards, those have to come from somewhere, so with 1.5-3% interchange fees the incentive to implement 2FA to cut, say, 0.2% off commission is just not there..
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#348Excellent ideas. I use Freedom to limit my use of social media to specific times of day, which is a good start. I especially liked the idea of promoting people if they seem to be browsing aimlessly.
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#349The article wants Apple to save us from mindless browsing, but I see mindless browsing as unavoidable. Not because of some technical or legal thing, but because mindless browsing is a good thing. We need it. Mindless browsing is like a walk through the woods, just looking for what is happening, navigating a huge amount of information that is hardly important at the moment – oh, the cherry tree is blooming – but could…
Mindless browsing is nothing like walking randomly in the woods or on the beach, communing with nature. One thing saps our humanity and the other enhances it.
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