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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by JohnWhigham »

aschampion wrote: post #79
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

The UX community seems to value rather than avoid breaking changes, and it's infuriating. Novelty and surprise are rarely usability virtues.

This is what happens when you have UX designers as full-time employees. They need some sort of grand project to work on. Same thing happened with reddit.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by JohnTHaller »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #296
pteraspidomorph wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your day to day experience isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's. It hasn't been long since "View page info" was confined to a hidden menu and all context menu labels were changed for absolutely no reason.

I've been trying to find that since it disappeared! Do tell!

Easiest is to just hit CTRL-I. Otherwise click the lock/not locked icon to the left of the address, click Connection secure/Connection not secure, then click More Information.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by lobocinza »

keymone wrote: post #321
kumarvvr wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its ok for me if the changes are incremental. When Chrome first came out, the lightweight, clean and out of your field of view tab bar was a welcome change. FF did pretty good with small changes that, in my view, have made it look better over the years. edit : Ok, checked the new design. Definitely don't like the tab buttons, mainly because when there are multiple open, there are no discernable borders among them. So…

I got rid of top tabs panel in favor of tree view, can’t imagine ever switching back.

Which addon do you use?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by tcpekin »

Does anyone know a way to disable tab scrolling? The main thing that prevents me from switching is the fact that I can't see all my tabs at the same time. They don't continually shrink so I can't use any spatial awareness of where things are to know where certain pages are. I looked into trying to disable the tab scrolling on the top bar about two months ago but couldn't figure it out. Any tips would be very appreciated.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by doe88 »

Not very helpful comment but I want to say it anyway because I usually feel quite critical and maybe a bit harsh on Firefox/Mozilla but from the get-go I like this update and new design, a lot.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by 1_player »

pteraspidomorph wrote: post #111
mathw wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last major Firefox UI overhaul was... Firefox 57, the first Quantum release, in November 2017. It's had various tweaks since, but my day to day experience has been the same since then. This is not an absurd pace of UI change in my opinion. And yes it is a conceptually simple UI, but with the whole stuff around the web with security, permissions, tab and window management and how an awful lot of modern computer use by…

Your day to day experience isn't necessarily the same as everyone else's. It hasn't been long since "View page info" was confined to a hidden menu and all context menu labels were changed for absolutely no reason.

My issue with the context menu is "Search [selection] with Google" is in the middle of the context menu, after "Print selection" and "Take screenshot". Why?

I cannot be the only one that uses that functionality 100 times a day at least, and it's so not conveniently placed I used to misclick "View selection source" instead a dozen times a day, and now I'll be taking screenshots or opening the print dialog by mistake. I've been googling a way of rearranging the context menu on Firefox so that selection search is rearranged or has a keyboard shortcut and not _one_ soul has ever mentioned it in the past decade, which is maddening.

One of the reason I use Edge nowadays is that "Search with Google" is the second option, between Copy and "Search with Bing in the sidebar", which isn't ideal, but it's still search.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Klonoar »

_xro6 wrote: post #336
aeharding wrote: post #101

Wow. This is a significant UX improvement for MacOS users! I might try FF as my daily personal browser in lieu of Safari. Overscroll and (to a lesser extent) native context menus are huge to me.

What's special about over scroll?

It's just how macOS works, and it should've been done years ago. If your entire mental model expects it, Firefox _not_ having it was really, really annoying and offputting.

I outright didn't use Firefox for years due to this. I like 89, though. Very glad they finally got this done.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by thatguy0900 »

teekert wrote: post #162
dralley wrote: post #121

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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." I guess it's unsurprising that UX designers would want to continue having work to do.

IDK, I like it, I would be one of those people that would complain about the 90's look if they didn't do this every now and then. But, people like you are ok with desktops like XFCE I guess, I like trying new paradigms, see what works, change what doesn't. I enjoy the occasional refresh in look and feel. Actually I think people like you are a minority, the majority just continues to enjoy evolutionary steps in design…

They don't complain because they are not technically apt enough to complain, and complaining accomplished nothing anyway.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by noisem4ker »

starik36 wrote: post #338
Scarbutt wrote: post #281

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Looks like they made it harder to find the option to customize the toolbar. Right click on toolbar, select 'Customize Toolbar', click 'Density' option at the bottom (I'm macos).

Looks like "Compact" is only in the list, if you had it selected prior. If not, then go to about:config and set "browser.proton.enabled" to false. Then, you'll get the option. What a mess.

You're looking for the "browser.compactmode.show" key.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by mixmastamyk »

Tried it on my Mac since there was where the improvements appear to be centered. I use dark mode there.

I like the context menu update.

Dark mode about:preferences seem to be darker and bluer. Highlight color is hardcoded to light blue, even though I have orange set in Mac prefs. Don't like, but can't remember highlight color was however.

Also don't like how the tabs are disconnected from the rest of the toolbar. I want OS standard tabs. Who has ever asked for this? Just a year or two ago they finally reverted the round tab fashion and I hoped that would be the end of it. :-(

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