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iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by dwaite »

diebeforei485 wrote: post #260
fireattack wrote: post #44

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Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

> What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode? To better train the facial recognition system, perhaps.

Yes, a facial recognition failure followed by success or passcode unlock will result in the failures being used for model training.

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Post by dwaite »

tomc1985 wrote: post #29
aikinai wrote: post #27

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They fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.

Interesting, mine seems to have like a 50% chance of unlocking anyways with my mask on, I thought they did some sort of improved face-with-mask detection or something

It is a cross between detecting the face is obscured, and recognizing the face if deformed by a tight-fitting mask. If you can get around the obscured face check, you can use the alternative FaceID profile while wearing a mask to deal with any nose/cheek deformation.

If a mask is on the tip of my nose and loose fitting, it seems to work.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by holografix »

Couldn’t care less about the screen lock issue. Don’t know why everyone is spitting the dummy about it.

As others have mentioned Facebook must be worries as their main (only?) revenue stream via ads could now lose significant appeal to marketers.

Could Facebook pivot to a product company and release a fantastic VR/AR device to lure gen z away from iPhones? A Facebook glass? It’ll be interesting to follow their hiring for VR related jobs

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Post by dwaite »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #189
jensvdh wrote: post #165

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I hate TouchID, never works when my fingers are sweaty or I'm cooking or anything like that. FaceID is perfect.

Why not have both? This whole topic would be a non-issue if we still had Touch ID as an option.

If a device supported and was provisioned with both, and unlocked with either, you would have double the potential for biometric attacks/vulnerabilities (remember that FaceID is an order of magnitude stronger biometric).

If you support just one with the other disabled, it is wasted hardware/space in a device with extremely limited size/cost budget. If you require both, you haven't fixed the usability issues.

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Post by djstein »

xyst wrote: post #331

So if I can unlock my phone with FaceID + Apple Watch + Mask. Then in theory, wouldn't ANY person with a mask be able to unlock my phone? If you steal the phone at the right time, and unlock the phone while wearing a mask and still be in proximity to the victim wearing the watch. You will have an unlocked iPhone at your disposal. Quickly disable all of the security features, remove the SIM, and now you have a $1000+…

unlock is one thing. turning off security features requires another input of the actual pin passcode.

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Post by justicz »

willis936 wrote: post #115
aikinai wrote: post #27

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They fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.

That was their claim, however my observation is that it just takes longer to fail before offering "swipe up to get the passcode interface". I have to waste many seconds of staring at my phone just to have the privilege of swiping up to spin the passcode interface display slot machine. You know what would work? Just showing the passcode interface as soon as the screen turns on.

FYI if you tap the text in the center of the screen that says "Face ID" while it's scanning, it'll bring up the passcode screen immediately.

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Post by passivate »

ubercow13 wrote: post #309
passivate wrote: post #247

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I agree, but for a different reason. Today's phones are stupidly fragile and pretty much everyone puts some sort of case on them. I don't get this obsession from phone makers to make increasingly thinner devices, when a large number of end users just put an ugly case on it. Why not make them rugged to begin with?

Would you really rather that rubber/plastic of the case was fused to the phone instead of just separate and replacable?

I'm sure Apple can design a rugged phone if they wanted to. A rugged phone designed with shock/vibration/drop protection in mind is not the same as a fragile phone with a case on top.

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Post by mcphage »

Exuma wrote: post #254
mcphage wrote: post #214

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> and now I am HYPER offended that they're not included Are you actually offended? Or are you just claiming to be offended in order to get your way, while simultaneously complaining that other people claim to be offended to get their way?

If you can't detect that this is sarcasm you might need to get your radar defragmented

Of course it’s sarcasm. Why do you think that’s an excuse?

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Post by pfraze »

turblety wrote: post #307
tosh wrote: post #2

Not mentioned in the press release but this update also brings a new version of Safari (and WebView). Anyone knows if Safari in 14.5 is equivalent to a specific Technology Preview release? https://developer.apple.com/safari/technology-preview/releas...

If only it included Web Push API capabilities. But of course, Apple won't do that, as then developers wouldn't have to beg to be in their app store, and pay a 30% commission on any payments. I would have more respect for Apple if they just came out and said it, but the fact they haven't mentioned it at all, is just cowardly.

I specifically came into the comments to see about this, and am disappointed. It’s the biggest feature PWAs can provide and would really reduce the pressure to create native apps.

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Post by lolive »

dylan604 wrote: post #87
_jal wrote: post #67

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I just fixed it by turning off FaceID. Apple reached phone perfection with the iPhone 4; they reached access perfection with touchID. Things have gotten worse since then.

One of the last reasons that I still use a 6s+ is the TouchID. I still like my headphone jack too, but the TouchID is the biggest feature I don't want to lose

I second that SO much !!!! Everything is perfect on that phone.
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