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technically....it's a culture clash. those words mean different things than Merriam Websters...... it's offensive to outsiders....to keep them out lol
It's offensive to everyone who's not a racist. Is that your definition of "outsider"? What do you think those words mean?
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>White You would be surprised.
No we wouldn't.
Using the 4chan JSON API, I looked at the /pol/ and /int/ boards to see the range of countries posted. /int/ has posts from 99 unique countries. /pol/ has posts from 100 unique countries, but many of the 'countries' are just labels naming a specific flag, for example "LGBT". (Note that "White Supremacist" is literally a flag/label you can choose... But so are "Tree Hugger", "Anarchist", "Facist", "Hippie", and "Black Lives Matter".) I tried to make a pastebin but their filters didn't like the word "white supremacist" so here's the code instead: https://pastebin.com/9FhDM8Ch
Given the list of countries, I'd say it is nearly impossible that most of these people are white. Some of these people are definitely using VPNs to change their country code, however it's also important to note that many VPNs are banned from posting without a 4chan Pass. They cannot all be VPNs.
Without spending too much time on it, I found two pictures of /pol/ meetups online:
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/7qt0h5/4chan_pol_mee... https://www.reddit.com/r/Cringetopia/comments/b3ggfx/4chan_m...
(Trigger warning, the second picture shows Nazi symbolism.)
In both pictures people of color are present, and in one picture white people make up 50% of the crowd. This doesn't make what /pol/ says OK and that I don't condone racist speech online, but it does suggest many of the comments in this thread are incorrect about 4chan's demographics. Ultimately we do not know what 4chan's demographics are.
Why did I bother? For a few reasons: I like Chris Poole and to my knowledge, he's never supported bigotry directly, he just strongly believes in the value of online anonymity. It pains me to see people painting him as a racist. Nobody calls Jack Dorsey a racist when racist things are posted on Twitter. I also don't like it when people imply that people who post racist things must by default be white, or that white people are inherently racist, e.g. "4chan is a racist website so they must be all white". I also am quite interested in the topic of online moderation and how we can create spaces that allow for privacy/anonymity while curbing bad actors. For something else interesting on this topic, this paper is about white supremacy present on Twitter: https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/downloa... Note that the paper is from 2016 and white supremacy is still in full-force on Twitter, and really any popular social media site.
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Vitriolic hate speech seems to be allowed just about everywhere. Browsing through the first three items in Technology /g/ showed me 2 instances of homophobic and 2 instances of racism. One of them hit both at the same time with " faggot [n-word] ". In general I have much less of a problem with porn or gore than I do with raging hatred.
raging hatred is all over the news though, and pretty much gone mainstream. have you heard of BLM, it is probably the most racist vile hate movement since the KKK and it's so in vogue right now.
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>I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. Always fascinating how they refer to themselves. You have n-words. Then potato n-words for the irish (and lithuatians) Pasta n-words for italians Bongs for the british Leafs for canadians Burgers and Amerimutts Toothpaste for the netherlands Gypsy for hungarians and romanians (who are at a perpetual shitposting war against each other) Hohols…
> You have n-words That you have to blank that out and none of the others, should tell you everything you need to know about how equal or "endearing" this is. Bongs, Leafs, Burgers... This is all white supremacy no matter how someone tries to reframe it.
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I took you up on that, and visited the technology interest area /g/ Post #1: Comment using the N word Post #2: Someone using "fag" to insult people who, presumably, use Arch linux. (The term was Archfags) Post #3: In response to something about headphones: "that deaf faggot [n-word]" So it's funny. I've been browsing 4chan for 5 minutes and couldn't avoid racism & homophobia in the very first things I saw. Maybe you…
If you visit anonymous imageboards, it's because you want to be exposed to the widest possible spectrum of humanity. There's a bias towards being offensive simply because those things are not allowed to surface anywhere else. If you stick around despite that, you'll realize the site has a rather unique culture. Occasionally, you'll run into great stuff that could never be expressed in sites such as this one. You ment…
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I don't have anything to say about people that uses a slurs against themselves because that isn't what I saw in 4Chan. It was someone calling other people "Archfags" as an insult, and each of the other examples I cited were used as insults. I've checked /g/ a few times since I posted my original comment to see if it was a fluke, but nope: Still lots of racial & homophobic insults. So let's break it down: 1) A person…
>1) A person is being insulted You got this wrong, it's not an insult. Somethingfag such as "oldfag", "newfag", "Archfag", etc. are not insults whatsoever. They're shibboleth terms for "old users", "new users", "Arch users". Your entire premise is incorrect. >2) The language of the insult is a comparison to another group of people. No one is being insulted, so this point is also wrong. >3) Being a member of that grou…
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I think you are the one doing the conflating. You've jumped from "these words are sometimes used" to "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings".
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If you compare this list to the types of posts you see on Facebook/Twitter etc. then it's actually quite diverse. I'm not advocating for the good of those topics, but the argument against 4chan is usually "this should never be talked about anywhere". Credit where credit is due: 4chan contains discussions of topics you will not and cannot find on mainstream social media.
> If you compare this list to the types of posts you see on Facebook/Twitter etc. then it's actually quite diverse. I have never seen this kind of content on Twitter or Facebook, in my own feeds or in trending topics. I would have to actively look. I have however seen a ton of real diverse content from a diverse group of people. This is a lie that where the intent is to downplay the white supremacist content.
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raging hatred is all over the news though, and pretty much gone mainstream. have you heard of BLM, it is probably the most racist vile hate movement since the KKK and it's so in vogue right now.
Are you trying to say that raging hatred on 4Chan is acceptable because raging hatred exists in other areas too? That would be a strange thing to say, but I don't know what you're getting at otherwise.
Especially when they openly admit doing this for political reasons.