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Re: Denmark to permanently cease using AstraZeneca vaccine

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Post by EdwardCoffin » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 7:24 PM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #340

EdwardCoffin wrote: post #339

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> Covid's fatality rate in the states was around 0.00125 and I'm assuming other places as well. Totally wrong. Johns Hopkins says the case fatality rate in the states is 1.8% [1]. Many others are worse, like Canada at 2.0% and 2.9% for the United Kingdom. [1] https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

500,000 dead / 400 million people. You can do the math. Hell only 33 million in the states tested positive for contracting Corona. 33 million / 400 million Which is infection rate of .0825 Even if you double it to account for non tested cases that .16% JUST CASES. Even if you double that you're not even at 1% yet. The experts err to the EXTREME side of safety. These are the same experts that say only eat steak if it'…

The divisor for case fatality is number of infections, not total population.

You can look up the definition.

so 572,674 / 32,124,869 = 1.8%

As I already said, and as you can look up yourself, in the link I gave.

Re: Denmark to permanently cease using AstraZeneca vaccine

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Post by nickthemagicman » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 10:32 PM UTC

EdwardCoffin wrote: post #341

nickthemagicman wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

500,000 dead / 400 million people. You can do the math. Hell only 33 million in the states tested positive for contracting Corona. 33 million / 400 million Which is infection rate of .0825 Even if you double it to account for non tested cases that .16% JUST CASES. Even if you double that you're not even at 1% yet. The experts err to the EXTREME side of safety. These are the same experts that say only eat steak if it'…

The divisor for case fatality is number of infections, not total population. You can look up the definition. so 572,674 / 32,124,869 = 1.8% As I already said, and as you can look up yourself, in the link I gave.

No that's the chance of death if you're already infected.

The fatality chance for a healthy person in the general population is the measure of risk for the average person. Using the same measure of population that the R value uses to calculate infectiousness.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number

Have you been using 1.8% chance of death as your chance of dying? I would be scared too.

For a healthy person to become infected is a very small number to begin with and highly biased towards the elderly or people with co morbidities.

You can legitimately lighten up. Your risk from this is infinitesimally small if you're under 55 and healthy.

If not it's still unbelievably small.

Re: Denmark to permanently cease using AstraZeneca vaccine

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Post by EdwardCoffin » Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 11:11 PM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #342

EdwardCoffin wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The divisor for case fatality is number of infections, not total population. You can look up the definition. so 572,674 / 32,124,869 = 1.8% As I already said, and as you can look up yourself, in the link I gave.

No that's the chance of death if you're already infected. The fatality chance for a healthy person in the general population is the measure of risk for the average person. Using the same measure of population that the R value uses to calculate infectiousness. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number Have you been using 1.8% chance of death as your chance of dying? I would be scared too. For a healthy…

This is right from the Johns Hopkins page linked to above:

> fatality ratios (the number of deaths divided by the number of confirmed cases)

So you’re wrong. Again.

Re: Denmark to permanently cease using AstraZeneca vaccine

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Post by nickthemagicman » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:31 AM UTC

EdwardCoffin wrote: post #343

nickthemagicman wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No that's the chance of death if you're already infected. The fatality chance for a healthy person in the general population is the measure of risk for the average person. Using the same measure of population that the R value uses to calculate infectiousness. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number Have you been using 1.8% chance of death as your chance of dying? I would be scared too. For a healthy…

This is right from the Johns Hopkins page linked to above: > fatality ratios (the number of deaths divided by the number of confirmed cases) So you’re wrong. Again.

fatalities / infected = fatality rate of those infected.

It's literally the definitions of those words.

It's fine continue to be scared. I legit feel bad for you.

My state just lifted the mask mandate recently and were not even at 30% vaccination rate yet.

Feels good.